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20:28 *** g1smo JOIN
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20:28 *** TOPIC Emacs users group Slovenia | Next virtual online
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meeting on Saturday, 20 January 2024, 20:30 CET |
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Next LIVE in-person meeting on Thursday, 1
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February 2024, 19:00 CET | https://Emacs.si
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(yang2!sid23779@fsf/member/yang on Mon Jan 8
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23:01:13 2024)
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20:28 *** NAMES eggbot g1smo k_lar lio` matterbot sachac yang
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yang2
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20:28 *** services. 328 #emacs.si https://emacs.si
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20:28 <lio`> enkrat smo si pa crdt pogledal
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20:28 <g1smo> dobrovećer
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20:28 <yang> g1smo: Živjo
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20:29 *** johnny_sitar QUIT Remote host closed the connection
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20:29 <lio`> Should we speak in english?
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20:31 <yang> lio`: sem pogledal zdaj
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20:31 <k_lar> lio`: wow, interesting! I'm a bit sad that I haven't
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joined earlier because I would've loved to check out
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crdt with other people
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20:33 <yang> k_lar: https://emacs.si/zapisniki/2024-03-07.html
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20:35 *** noctua JOIN
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20:35 <yang> noctua: Živjo
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20:36 <noctua> Živjo
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20:36 <lio`> Well, we're "working on" (we have to learn first)
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public emacs crdt instance for emacs user group
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slovenia to use. Basically we want to write guix
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container defintition that has emacs nicely
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preconfigured with some functions available to publish
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org files to html and to use it partially as our blog
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as well.
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20:37 <lio`> but as said gnu guix is sth we're trying to get into
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w/ Jurij but with quite limited time
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20:37 <lio`> I guess it will take a while before we have a working
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instance
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20:42 <lio`> Malce sem zacel uporabljat multiple-cursors.
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20:43 <yang> lio`: jaz pa sem si naredil default konfiguracijo po
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vzoru emacs.kickstarter
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20:43 <lio`> Oh, I've started playing with multiple-cursors. That's
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one of the features that I use quite often in my
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proprietary IDE I'm using at work
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20:44 <yang> https://github.com/MiniApollo/kickstart.emacs
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20:44 <lio`> The other one is xdebugger, which @g1smo enabled a few
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days ago on his emacs
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20:47 <k_lar> lio`: Oh so if I'm getting this right, you want to
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write a guix container config for CI/CD on codeberg?
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But if that's the case, why use guix for it as it's
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only going to run when something gets pushed to git?
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Either that or you're going to host this container
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somewhere for people to use. But then authentication
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becomes a problem doesn't it..?
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20:48 <lio`> No, it would be a standalone container everyone would
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be able to selfhost
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20:50 <k_lar> Oh everyone would selfhost it, got it
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20:50 <lio`> Basically it would work as an etherpad but with
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orgmode, so a collaborative writing tool that will
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suppport orgmode
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20:51 <k_lar> Ahaa, alright that makes more sense yeah
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20:51 <g1smo> yes the idea was to make a very simple to setup stack
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that gives you an emacs daemon with crdt and
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configured for publishing org buffers to websites
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easily
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20:51 <k_lar> Would this be hosted on a vps or would someone host
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it on their own server?
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20:52 <lio`> @yang - will you present emacs.kickstart on our next
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in-person meetup?
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20:53 <g1smo> we'll host an instance on our server and add
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instructions on how to set it up on a debian VPS, for
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example, in a few commands
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20:54 <yang> lio`: I can say a few words about it, but what I did
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is mostly "go-by-the-instructions" and there is not
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much explanation about all those modules, except the
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maintainer linked to their project sites
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20:55 <yang> lio`: a lot of add-ons/modules are configured, but
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without really knowing what they are used for ;)
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20:55 <k_lar> Does anyone here use EVIL mode btw?
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20:56 <g1smo> \o/
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20:56 <g1smo> I do :)
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20:57 <yang> me too
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20:58 <lio`> disbelievers
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20:58 <yang> :)
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20:59 <k_lar> Has there been a presentation on it yet? Or modal
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editing in general, something like meow or god-mode?
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21:00 <lio`> I'm using spacemacs, but it is not the very compatible
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w/ guix (guix comes with emacs packages)
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21:01 <g1smo> https://git.kompot.si/g1smo/dotfiles/src/branch/deblo/.emacs.d/config.org#headline-4
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21:01 <g1smo> I'm using general.el to manage shortcuts
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21:01 <g1smo> sort of copied what I liked in spacemacs / DOOM emacs
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into my own configuration
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21:02 <g1smo> haven't heard of meow before, looks interesting :)
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21:03 <g1smo> https://github.com/meow-edit/meow
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21:03 <g1smo> modal editing with emacs shortcuts, interesting
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21:04 <g1smo> I am a little sad that evil mode doesn't want to work
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with rcirc for me (yet)
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21:07 <k_lar> God mode does the same thing as meow but "just works"
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at least foe my brain. With meow there's still a bit
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of a learning curve:
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https://github.com/meow-edit/meow/blob/master/TUTORIAL.org
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21:08 <k_lar> Meanwhile god mode can be grokked in a matter of
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minutes: https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode
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21:08 <k_lar> But I hear meow is more customizable
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21:11 <lio`> gtg. Will someone write a record of the meeting?
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21:11 <lio`> Oh one more thing - about the fliers. I can create
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some tomorrow. What do you think?
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21:12 <yang> lio`: yes, those are good
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21:12 <yang> how do you print them?
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21:13 <lio`> just normal printer
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21:14 <yang> I wonder if there are places in Bežigrad where I could
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take them to?
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21:15 <noctua> I can put up fliers at FF
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21:15 <yang> Maybe the Poštarska School
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21:17 <yang> They have the telecommunication department, maybe
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those students would be interested in using/learning
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emacs
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21:22 <g1smo> Sounds good
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21:23 <yang> They are the only "technical" school in Bežigrad AFAIK
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21:29 <g1smo> I can put one up @ CTK
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21:29 <g1smo> maybe also FF (maybe we get some non tech members too
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:)
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21:30 <yang> Maybe FDV also has an IT studies department
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21:34 <k_lar> If I could somehow get the fliers, I could try
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putting some up at SCKR?
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21:34 <yang> Lio could send the link to the flyer on the mailing
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list
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21:45 <g1smo> pretty sure he will :)
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21:49 <yang> g1smo: ali ti morda uporabljaš kakšen Olimex.com
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produkt?
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21:49 <yang> V spominu imam, da si morda imel Teresov prenosnik ?
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21:49 <g1smo> nimam, ne, imam pa pinebook pro (ki ga bolj redko
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uporabljam)
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21:49 <yang> aha, ta je skoraj identičen ja
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21:49 <g1smo> od olimexa imam samo nekaj esp32 boardov
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21:49 <g1smo> arduino
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21:54 <yang> Armbian si sprobal kaj ?
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21:55 <g1smo> yes, super je :)
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21:55 <g1smo> priporocam
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21:55 <g1smo> sva intervjuvala pecovnika v tehno klistiru
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21:55 <g1smo> (avtorja projekta)
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21:55 <yang> aja? kdaj
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21:55 <yang> mas link
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21:56 <g1smo> https://radiostudent.si/druzba/tehno-klistir/pogumna-izdaja
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21:56 <g1smo> 4 leta ze mineva, huh
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21:56 <g1smo> tud cvetan usunov, glava olimexa, je v epizodi :)
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21:56 <yang> ja precej se razvija od takrat
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21:57 <yang> fajn, bom poslusal
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21:57 <g1smo> super zadevsna za boljsi linux furat na SBCjih,
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katerih proizvajalci pogosto hitro opustijo
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razvoj/podporo
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21:57 <g1smo> mislim da imam armbian na pinebook pro
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21:57 <g1smo> pa na rockpi 4
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21:58 <g1smo> (ki pa sem ga oddal za en umetniski projekt)
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22:00 <yang> ja v redu je
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22:00 <yang> imam na pine64 in rock5b
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22:01 <g1smo> o najs, kako pa je kaj rock5b?
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22:01 <g1smo> ce sem prav videl je nedavno dobil nov video driver
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22:01 <g1smo> kasna 2 tedna nazaj?
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22:02 <yang> v redu je, 16 GB rama 8x core
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22:02 <g1smo> sem razmisljal da bi si kak server na tem SoCu
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omislili za kompot, da vidimo
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22:02 <yang> ne uporabljam ga za X
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22:03 <g1smo> ja se mi je zdelo da najbrz ne :)
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22:03 <yang> imam ga bolj kot mini server ja
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22:03 <yang> ampak komot bi se ga uporabljalo za namizni rac.
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22:03 <yang> Nvme paše gor
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22:03 <yang> in potem hitro deluje
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22:03 <g1smo> pecovnik pravi da je dost primerljiv z lenovotim ARM
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laptopom (ki je sicer snapdragon)
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22:04 <yang> ja
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22:04 <g1smo> ja zato me zanima kako je kaj hitrost; kompot server
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ima AMD Epyc 16 jedrni CPU ampak mamo kontejner na
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RAID polju HDD-jev
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22:04 <yang> ja lahko naredim kak testr, ce te zanima pa ti pastam
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22:05 <g1smo> bolj sem mislil kar postavit nanj en nextcloud, ki
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storage prek NFS zmontira iz "velikega" streznika
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22:05 <g1smo> oz. vec storitev tako po/prestavit
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22:05 <g1smo> en krovni storage server in vec redundant ARM "glav"
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ki servirajo storitve
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22:06 <g1smo> stabilno poceni in skalabilno :)
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22:06 <yang> aha
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22:06 <yang> ce te zanima kak benchmark pa povej
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22:06 <g1smo> thx, sporocim
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22:07 <yang> AMD Epyc, to je pa precej nov CPU
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22:07 <yang> baje, precej zmogljiv
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22:07 <g1smo> ja, imamo izposojen del streznika od enga clana
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22:07 <g1smo> ampak diskovje precej bottlenecka pol
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22:07 <g1smo> razen ce bi bazo v ramu laufali
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22:07 <g1smo> ampak to je kar neumnost za produkcijski server :)
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22:08 <yang> Hm veš kaj me še zanima, ali se da dobiti posnetek
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enega 30 let starega koncerta iz arhiva RŠ ?
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22:08 <yang> verjetno ni vse digitalizirano
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22:10 <yang> https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/townes-van-zandt/1994/klub-k4-ljubljana-slovenia-38b5593.html
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22:17 <g1smo> ni vse, ne
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22:17 <g1smo> v fonoteki so stari trakovi in ostali fizicni nosilci
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22:18 <yang> ta bi morda znal biti digitaliziran, ker je nekaj časa
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krožil bootleg naokoli
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22:19 <yang> zdaj ga ni več za dobit oz. če je kak posnetek,
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vprašanje če je originalen
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22:19 <g1smo> nek trak je s komadom "blaze's blues", nevem pa ce se
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kaj
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22:19 <g1smo> so kar snemali vcasih ja iz mesalk :)
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22:20 <yang> 28 november 1994 je datum koncerta v K4
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22:20 <g1smo> se najlazje mogoce najt prek ljudi, kdo je delal
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takrat, povprasat...
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22:20 <yang> sem mislil, da ti veš
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22:22 <g1smo> ne, je ene 20 let prezgodaj hehe
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22:23 <g1smo> en trak je iz 11. 1. '95 s tremi komadi van zandt-a
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22:23 <g1smo> poleg pa se je brotzmann pa se nekdo
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22:23 <g1smo> (sem skocil pogledat na hitro)
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22:23 <yang> hmmm
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22:23 <g1smo> so pa drugje se kasni traki ki niso v fonoteki
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22:23 <yang> to ne bo to
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22:23 <yang> brotzmann je saxofonist - jazz
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22:24 <g1smo> vec jih je na enem traku
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22:24 <g1smo> vprasanje ce ima sploh en nosilec celga koncerta
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radio
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22:25 <g1smo> sredstva so od vedno omejena
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22:25 <g1smo> tudi trak stane
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22:25 <yang> potem imajo morda na Radio SLO
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22:25 <g1smo> to pa je mozno ja
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22:25 <yang> v njihovi fonotekiu
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22:25 <g1smo> se da povprasat v arhivu morda
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22:25 <g1smo> nevem kaksno politiko imajo za vpoglede
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22:25 <yang> ok
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22:26 <yang> hvala, da si pogledal
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22:26 <g1smo> https://radiostudent.si/glasba/izven-zakona/townes-van-zandt
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22:26 <g1smo> milko poštrak bi pa morda vedel, je bil dolgo radijc
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22:27 <yang> aha, ga ne poznam
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22:28 <g1smo> https://www.fsd.uni-lj.si/fakulteta/fakulteta/organigram/zaposleni/2008050813052316/
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22:29 <g1smo> lahko pa še povprašam fonotekarja, vidim da je van
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zandta pokrival v oddajah
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22:29 <g1smo> nič, se tudi jaz odpravljam počasi
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22:29 <g1smo> bom shranil tale log in spisal povzetek za listo
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jutri
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22:29 <yang> ok lahko noc
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22:29 <yang> super
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22:29 <g1smo> smo na vezi, bodi(te) dobro, vidimo naslednjič v živo
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22:29 <yang> velja
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