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[[!tag plugins/meta patch]]
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[[!template id=gitbranch branch=jon/defaultmeta author="[[Jon]]"]]
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I'd like to define [[plugins/meta]] values to apply across all pages
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site-wide unless the pages define their own: default values for meta
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definitions essentially.
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<snip old patch, see below for latest>
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-- [[Jon]]
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> This doesn't support multiple-argument meta directives like
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> `link=x rel=y`, or meta directives with special side-effects like
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> `updated`.
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>
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> The first could be solved (if you care) by a syntax like this:
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>
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> meta_defaults => [
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> { copyright => "© me" },
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> { link => "about:blank", rel => "silly", },
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> ]
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>
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> The second could perhaps be solved by invoking `meta::preprocess` from within
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> `scan` (which might be a simplification anyway), although this is complicated
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> by the fact that some (but not all!) meta headers are idempotent.
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>
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> --[[smcv]]
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>> Thanks for your comment. I've revised the patch to use the config syntax
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>> you suggest. I need to perform some more testing to make sure I've
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>> addressed the issues you highlight.
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>>
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>> I had to patch part of IkiWiki core, the merge routine in Setup, because
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>> the use of `possibly_foolish_untaint` was causing the hashrefs at the deep
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>> end of the data structure to be converted into strings. The specific change
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>> I've made may not be acceptable, though -- I'd appreciate someone providing
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>> some feedback on that hunk!
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>>> Well, re that hunk, taint checking is currently disabled, but
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>>> if the perl bug that disallows it is fixed and it is turned back on,
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>>> the hash values will remain tainted, which will probably lead to
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>>> problems.
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>>>
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>>> I'm also leery of using such a complex data structure in config.
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>>> The websetup plugin would be hard pressed to provide a UI for such a
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>>> data structure. (It lacks even UI for a single hash ref yet, let alone
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>>> a list.)
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>>>
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>>> Also, it seems sorta wrong to have two so very different syntaxes to
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>>> represent the same meta data. A user without a lot of experience will
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>>> be hard pressed to map from a directive to this in the setup file.
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>>>
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>>> All of which leads me to think the setup file could just contain
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>>> a text that could hold meta directives. Which generalizes really to
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>>> a text that contains any directives, and is, perhaps appended to the
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>>> top of every page. Which nearly generalizes to the sidebar plugin,
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>>> or perhaps something more general than that...
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>>>
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>>> However, excessive generalization is the root of all evil, so
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>>> I'm not necessarily saying that's a good idea. Indeed, my memory
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>>> concerns below invalidate this idea pretty well. --[[Joey]]
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<snip old patch>
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-- [[Jon]]
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>> Ok, I've had a bit of a think about this. There are currently 15 supported
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>> meta fields. Of these: title, licence, copyright, author, authorurl,
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>> and robots might make sense to define globally and override on a per-page
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>> basis.
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>>
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>> Less so, description (due to its impact on map); openid (why would
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>> someone want more than one URI to act as an openid endpoint to the same
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>> place?); updated. I can almost see why someone might want to set a global
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>> updated value. Almost.
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>>
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>> Not useful are permalink, date, stylesheet (you already have a global
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>> stylesheet), link, redir, and guid.
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>>
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>> In other words, the limitations of my first patch that [[smcv]] outlined
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>> are only relevant to defined fields that you wouldn't want to specify a
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>> global default for anyway.
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>>
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>>> I generally agree with this. It is *possible* that meta would have a new
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>>> field added, that takes parameters and make sense to use globally.
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>>> (Indeed, this later happened to some extent with the sortas parameters
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>>> being added to some metas.)
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>>> --[[Joey]]
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>>
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>> Due to this, and the added complexity of the second patch (having to adjust
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>> `IkiWiki/Setup.pm`), I think the first patch makes more sense. I've thus
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>> reverted to it here.
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>>
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>> Is this merge-worthy?
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<snip old patch>
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-- [[Jon]]
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>>> Merry Christmas/festive season/happy new year folks. I've been away from
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>>> ikiwiki for the break, and now I've returned to watching recentchanges.
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>>> Hopefully I'll be back in the mix soon, too. In the meantime, Joey, have
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>>> you had a chance to look at this yet? -- [[Jon]]
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>>>> Ping :) Hi. [[Joey]], would you consider this patch for the next
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>>>> ikiwiki release? -- [[Jon]]
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>>> For this to work with websetup and --dumpsetup, it needs to define the
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>>> `meta_*` settings in the getsetup function.
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>>>>
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>>>> I think this will be problematic with the current implementation of this
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>>>> patch. The datatype here is an array of hash references, with each hash
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>>>> having a variable (and arbitrary) number of key/value pairs. I can't
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>>>> think of an intuitive way of implementing a way of editing such a
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>>>> datatype in the web interface, let alone registering the option in
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>>>> getsetup.
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>>>>
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>>>> Perhaps a limited set of defined meta values could be exposed via
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>>>> websetup (the obvious ones: author, copyright, license, etc.) -- [[Jon]]
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>>>
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>>> I also have some concerns about both these patches, since both throw
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>>> a lot of redundant data at meta, which then stores it in a very redundant
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>>> way. Specifically, meta populates a per-page `%metaheaders` hash
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>>> as well as storing per-page metadata in `%pagestate`. So, if you have
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>>> a wiki with 10 thousand pages, and you add a 1k site-wide license text,
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>>> that will bloat the memory usage of ikiwiki by in excess of 2
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>>> megabytes. It will also cause ikiwiki to write a similar amount more data
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>>> to its state file which has to be loaded back in each
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>>> run.
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>>>
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>>> Seems that this could be managed much more efficiently by having
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>>> meta special-case the site-wide settings, not store them in these
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>>> per-page data structures, and just make them be used if no per-page
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>>> metadata of the given type is present. --[[Joey]]
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>>>>
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>>>> that should be easy enough to do. I will work on a patch. -- [[Jon]]
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>>>>> Hi — I've written a new patch which I hope addresses the concerns raised
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>>>>> with the previous ones. The new approach is to hard-code in `scan()`
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>>>>> which of the meta types are supported in the setup file. If one is
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>>>>> defined, then `scan()` calls `preprocess()`, as [[smcv]] suggested,
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>>>>> rather than stuffing redundant data into ikiwiki's data structures.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Two types supported in the setup file have optional arguments: `author`
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>>>>> and `title`. These are supported by having special-cased setup keys
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>>>>> `meta_author_sortas` and `meta_title_sortas`. Future expansion of the
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>>>>> number of supported types, or addition of arguments to existing ones,
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>>>>> can similarly be special-cased.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The setup data structure is no longer complicated with an
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>>>>> array-of-hashes, which means this is suitable for exposing via websetup.
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>>>>> `getsetup()` has been adjusted accordingly.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The patch can be found at the git branch described above.
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>>>>> — [[Jon]]
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>>>>>> I wish I could take pity on you and just merge this, but
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>>>>>> AFAICS it still suffers from the memory bloat described above.
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>>>>>> Specifically, when `scan` calls `preprocess`, it
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>>>>>> stores the metadata in `%pagestate` etc. --[[Joey]]
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