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# A few questions about translating PO file
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I have a few questions about translating PO file:
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1. Assume I copied `ikiwiki.pot` file to `pl.po` file and translated it
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from English to Polish. How can I check that my `pl.po` file works good?
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I have some experience with building Debian packages, but I don't know
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too much about working with PO files in Debian packages.
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> Try putting it into the po/ directory and running make and make install
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> in there, that should create the .mo and install it somewhere
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> appropriate. ikiwiki should display translated messages when building the
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> wiki (with -v).
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2. I'll send you my translation when I finish it, of course. But what about
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updating my PO file? Should I send it to you for every ikiwiki issue?
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Maybe you should give write access to ikiwiki repository for translators
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of PO files?
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> I recently set up a git repository mirroring the main svn repository (see
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> [[download]]) and one idea is that perhaps translators can use that for a
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> distributed revision control system that I can merge back from into svn.
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> I can set up accounts for svn, but as it's on my own personal server and
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> not a sourceforge/alioth like thing, it's a bit of a pain and maintenance
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> burden for me.
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>> OK, I've picked up Subversion for your ikiwiki, so I can get into
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>> Git now ;)
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3. What is the best way to update my PO file when you do some changes in
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`ikiwiki.pot` file? Should I translate my PO file from scratch or
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can I do diff for old and new `ikiwiki.pot` file and update only differences?
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> There are standard tools for working with po files, and the po file
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> should be updated as part of the wiki build process so that any fuzzy
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> strings are so marked.
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>> Could you please point me any good references or write a quick start
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>> for translators? I think it can be very useful for me and other people.
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>>> I'm not a translator, so I don't really know..
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>>>> OK, I hope I handle it :)
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4. What about "gettexting" button titles and link names? Do you really
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think that there should be hardcoded in ikiwiki templates? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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> I don't know, really. Recai's approach seems to show promise.
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>> BTW, why does ikiwiki number my questions wrongly (1., 1., 1., 1.,
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>> instead of 1., 2., 3., 4.)? Where have I made a Markdown mistake? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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>>> My indentation mistake, I think. --[[Joey]]
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>>>> Now it's perfect :) Thank you very much! --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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----
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# Less laconic gettext messages
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I'm just translating `ikiwiki.pot` file to Polish and I have
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problems with some gettext messages, because unfortunately
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there are very laconic, for example "update of %s's %s by %s".
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Sometimes I don't understand background well, because I don't use
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all ikiwiki plugins and I have to check ikiwiki source code.
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Besides in Polish language we have conjugation of a verb and
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I can't do it correctly if I don't know what subject of
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a message is. Then I have to check the sources again...
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So I have a request to Joey and the rest of ikiwiki coders:
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please write more verbose gettext messages and don't fear using
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subject there. It will be huge help for me and other ikiwiki
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translators. Thank you! :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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> Well, those messages are mostly laconic because they're output by
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> ikiwiki running in unix program mode and other tight situations, and
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> it should be clear from context when you see the expanded message what
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> the various bits are.
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> For example, "update of foowiki's MooBar by joey" seems to say enough to
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> be clear (and fit in mutt's subject line display), while the corresponding
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> "actualizado el wiki foowiki y la página MooBar por el usuario joey" feels
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> a bit verbose. (And should it say "updated foowiki *and* the MooBar page"
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> like that? My Spanish sucks though..) In my crappy Spanish I might instead
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> say something like "actualizado MooBar de foowiki por joey". Or maybe
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> "actualizado página Moobar por joey"?
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>> But you know that "update of %s's %s by %s" string can be "update of
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>> foowiki's MooBar by joey", but I can only guess it :)
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> Anyway, to get back to your point, it's true that translators often
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> need additonal context about things like what variables expand to, and
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> size limits. This is generally done by adding comments in the pot file,
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> and I've turned that on, and added a few. --[[Joey]]
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>> Thank you very much! It also will be a big help for me. --[[Paweł|ptecza]] |