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I think that I have logged in using openid! But I think the login page
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could use some adjustemnts.
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Perhaps the openid stuff should be seperate, unless I was supposed to login
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as well. Also have I just created an account on this wiki as well?
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> The idea is that you fill in one or the other but not both. If it's
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> switched to only openid, it's much clearer, since the
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> username/password/register stuff disappears from the form.
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> If both login methods are enabled, it's limited to using one form for
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> both though...
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> By signing in with openid, you have created an account on the wiki; you
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> can configure it to eg, subscribe your email address to changes to pages.
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> --[[Joey]]
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OK, my openid login works too. One question though, is there a setup parameter which controls whether new registrations are permitted at all? For instance, I'm thinking that I'd like to use the wiki format for content, but I don't want it editable by anyone who isn't already set up. Does this work? --[[Tim Lavoie]]
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# How to ban an IP address?
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There is a way to ban ikiwiki users, but how to ban an IP address?
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For example if a bitchy anonymous is bombing our poll. I can use
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only Apache/iptables rules for this? Maybe it's related to
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[[ACL|todo/ACL]] request? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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> Well, the polls are not something I would worry about much. I do plan to
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> add_IP_range_banning, although I expect to wait until
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> there's a demonstrated need. --[[Joey]]
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>> Heh, do you really want a lot of spam of me? ;)
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>> It was only an example of banning reason. Recently I've read about
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>> problems of Wikipedia with the vandals from Qatar. They demolished
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>> Qatar Wikipedia pages and the admins of Wikipedia had to ban all
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>> IP addresses of that country (fortunately Qatar has only one ISP).
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>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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## Error voting
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> Error: /srv/web/ikiwiki.info/todo/Configurable_minimum_length_of_log_message_for_web_edits/index.html independently created, not overwriting with version from todo/Configurable_minimum_length_of_log_message_for_web_edits
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[[users/jon]]
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### Logging Out
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If I've logged in by OpenID, how do I log out? I don't see any logout
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button anywhere on IkiWiki. (is it because I hit "forever" for my OpenID authorization duration?)
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> No, it's because it's on the preferences page! That's somewhat non-obvious...
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>> This is a problem with having a static wiki. If I just put "Logout" as
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>> an action on every page, that will look weird if you're not logged in.
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>> --[[Joey]]
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Even if IkiWiki does let me log out, how do I *stay* logged out? Let's say I'm using a kiosk. What's to prevent someone else from hitting my OpenID service right after I've walked away? My OpenID service will just auth the login again, won't it? --[[sabr]] (behavior seems to vary... does it depend on the OpenID service? guess I have some docs to read.)
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> If you're at a kiosk, you'll need to log out of your openid provider too.
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> Or use a provider that doesn't use cookies to keep you logged in. (Or
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> don't check the box that makes your provider set a cookie when you log in.)
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>
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> AFAIK openid doesn't have single signoff capabilities yet. --[[Joey]]
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I'm having a problem using my preferred openid. I have
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http://thewordnerd.info configured as a delegate to
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thewordnerd.myopenid.com. It works fine on Lighthouse, Slicehost and
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everywhere else I've used it. Here, though, if I use the delegate I'm sent
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to my openid identity URL on myopenid.com. If I use the identity URL
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directly, I get the verification page.
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Is my delegation broken in some way that works for all these other apps but
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which fails here? Or is something broken in Ikiwiki's implementation?
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> I guess this is the same issue filed by you at
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> [[bugs/OpenID_delegation_fails_on_my_server]] --[[Joey]]
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Yes. I'd only recently set up my server as a delegate under wordpress, so still thought that perhaps the issue was on my end. But I'd since used my delegate successfully elsewhere, so I filed it as a bug against ikiwiki.
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###Pretty Painless
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I just tried logging it with OpenID and it Just Worked. Pretty painless. If you want to turn off password authentication on ikiwiki.info, I say go for it. --[[blipvert]]
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> I doubt I will. The new login interface basically makes password login
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> and openid cooexist nicely. --[[Joey]]
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###LiveJournal openid
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One caveat to the above is that, of course, OpenID is a distributed trust system which means you do have to think about the trust aspect. A case in point is livejournal.com whose OpenID implementation is badly broken in one important respect: If a LiveJournal user deletes his or her journal, and a different user registers a journal with the same name (this is actually quite a common occurrence on LiveJournal), they in effect inherit the previous journal owner's identity. LiveJournal does not even have a mechanism in place for a remote site even to detect that a journal has changed hands. It is an extremely dodgy situation which they seem to have *no* intention of fixing, and the bottom line is that the "identity" represented by a *username*.livejournal.com token should not be trusted as to its long-term uniqueness. Just FYI. --[[blipvert]]
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Submitting bugs in the OpenID components will be difficult if OpenID must be working first...
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# Privacy and Decentralization
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Maybe I don't understand OpenID well enough, but it looks like there are just few providers, most
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of which are huge companies or belong to such, and I don't trust them to verify me identity
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or to not track all my logins. I'll use OpenID only if I can make my own home server
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be my OpenID provider, and if doing so doesn't interfere with the design and security and
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privacy of OpenID, and doesn't require me to use centrally-signed certificates or pay to some
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company or anything like that.
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Is it possible to use OpenID in a way keeping the user in full control and allowing any user to
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have their personal provider without damaging the architecture behind OpenID?
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I'm worried, at least until the issue is cleared.
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-- [[fr33domlover]]
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> You can install an OpenID provider on your own server and use that if you
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> wish. I believe you will need an SSL certificate that `ikiwiki.info` trusts.
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> -- [[Jon]]
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This poll is now 8 years old. Do we have enough data to make a decision?
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Can we consider adding `open=no` to the poll? -- [[Jon]]
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