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No matter what I do, ikiwiki gives me a `Can't locate loadable object for module Locale::gettext in @INC` although I've installed (and reinstalled) the Locale module, and no luck. If I look at the directories in the INC path, I can see the file. The wiki won't compile in spite of this, and I've tried everything I can think of.. -- [[tychoish]]
> Sounds like the `Locale::gettext` perl module is there, but your perl
> installation is broken so that the accompnying so file is not there, or
> doesn't work. On my system I have
> `/usr/lib/perl5/Locale/gettext.pm` and
> `/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext.so` -- suspect your problem is with
> the second one.
>
> If you can't fix it, this problem could probably be worked around by
> unsetting all environment variables when running ikiwiki (`LANG`,
> `LC_ALL`, `LC_MESSAGES`). Then it won't try to load `Locale::gettext` at
> all. --[[Joey]]
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I am trying to install Ikiwiki version 2.1 from the source tarball.
It has all gone fairly smoothly until I try and run 'make'.
I.e. I have downloaded and unpacked ikiwiki_2.1.tar.gz and have run
perl Makefile.PL
... which has run OK.
However when I then run 'make' I get:-
LANG=C perl -I. -T ikiwiki.out doc html --templatedir=templates \
--underlaydir=basewiki --nousedirs\
--wikiname="ikiwiki" --verbose \
--exclude=/discussion --no-discussion --userdir=users \
--plugin=goodstuff \
--plugin=haiku --plugin=polygen --plugin=fortune
Failed to load plugin IkiWiki::Plugin::mdwn: IkiWiki version 2 required--this is only version 1.01 at IkiWiki/Plugin/mdwn.pm line 7.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at IkiWiki/Plugin/mdwn.pm line 7.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 4) line 2.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 4) line 2.
make: *** [extra_build] Error 1
How do I fix this? There may be a bit of old ikiwiki left behind because
I did once have an older version installed but I thought I had removed all
traces of it.
> I'm quite sure that you still have some of it floating around, since
> ikiwiki seems to be loading an old IkiWiki.pm.
>
> I don't understand though why it's not finding ./IkiWiki.pm first. The
> `-I` in the command line should make it look for files in the current
> directory first. --[[Joey]]
Well I have searched around and there really is nothing left that I can see.
I have removed *everything* found by 'find' and 'locate' that contains 'ikiwiki' except the tar file
and started from the beginning again and I see exactly the same error.
Is it that I maybe have a too old version of some of the Perl dependencies? The only mdwn.pm files
that I have are the two I have just extracted from the new tar file. There is *no* ./IkiWiki.pm file
> It's interesting that you say you have no ./IkiWiki.pm file, since one is
> included in the tarball. What happened to it, I wonder?
so what/where is it loading to satisfy the ....... aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
I wasn't noticing the case of the filename, I'd missed the upper case W and guess what 'find' shows me:-
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki.pm
Removing the above file has fixed my basic problem, now I'm getting lots of (non-fatal) errors
about "Can't locate Locale/gettext.pm", presumably that's a missing Perl module, I can probably
sort that out.
## Errors when running 'make test'
OK, I've now got it to compile and install and presumably it's basically working. However there
are a few errors when I run 'make test'. Several errors have disappeared by installing more Perl
stuff (specifically XML::SAX)
> XML::SAX is a requirement of XML::Simple, which is a documented build
> requirement. (Only really needed if you'll be using subversion actually).
and one error disappeared when I did a 'make install', i.e. the 'make
test' has a test which requires IkiWiki to be installed first.
> Yes, that bug is already fixed in subversion for the next release
> --[[Joey]]
However I'm still getting the following error in 'make test':-
t/pagename.................ok
t/pagespec_match...........ok 1/52Modification of a read-only value attempted at /home/chris/webdev/ikiwiki/blib/lib/IkiWiki.pm line 1023.
# Looks like you planned 52 tests but only ran 23.
# Looks like your test died just after 23.
t/pagespec_match...........dubious
Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 24-52
Failed 29/52 tests, 44.23% okay
t/pagespec_merge...........ok
> What version of perl are you using? It seems to have some problem with
> operator overloading.
> --[[Joey]]
home$ perl -v
This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux
## Installation in a non-root enviroment
I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems
in Perl) and documented them in [[tips/Dreamhost]]. I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks. Thanks for the great app!
## Typing error?
[..] Mail::Sendmail, TimeDate, RPC::XML, [..]: should be DateTime? --[[vibrog]]
> No, TimeDate and DateTime are two different CPAN modules. Ikiwiki uses
> TimeDate. --[[Joey]]
ah, i still don't fully get it, though (the following is slightly shortened):
$ perl -MCPAN -e shell
cpan> install DateTime
DateTime is up to date.
cpan> install TimeDate
Warning: Cannot install TimeDate, don't know what it is.
Try the command
i /TimeDate/
to find objects with matching identifiers.
I'm trying to build IkiWiki on a fresh OpenSuse 10.3 box. I start out with
$ perl -MCPAN -e 'install Text::Markdown URI HTML::Parser HTML::Template HTML::Scrubber'
$ git clone git://git.ikiwiki.info/ ikiwiki && cd ikiwiki
$ perl Makefile.PL && make
Are there other prerequisites?
I also installed all optional Perl modules, except TimeDate.
> TimeDate is also, confusingly, known as Date::Parse. Perhaps CPAN would
> do better with that name. --[[Joey]]
good. Date::Parse was already installed. --[[vibrog]]
`make` exits with `make: *** [extra_build] Aborted`, `make test` complains `cannot stat 'ikiwiki.man'` --[[vibrog]]
> If you show me the actual error message, and not just the last line make
> outputs, I might be able to help. --[[Joey]]
..
rendering todo/calendar_--_archive_browsing_via_a_calendar_frontend.mdwn
make: *** [extra_build] Segmentation fault
> So, perl on your system is segfaulting when running ikiwiki. What version
> of perl is this, and what version of what distribution? --[[Joey]]
$ perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
osname=linux, osvers=2.6.22, archname=i586-linux-thread-multi
uname='linux ravel 2.6.22 #1 smp 20070921 22:29:00 utc i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
config_args='-ds -e -Dprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dinstallusrbinperl -Dusethreads -Di_db -Di_dbm -Di_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Duseshrplib=true -Doptimize=-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -g -Wall -pipe'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define usemultiplicity=define
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]
---
I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[users/Jon]]
> Are you running perl with the environemnt settings specified on the page?
> Can you show how it fails to find the bundle? --[[Joey]]
>> I was not. Next time I build I will have to try that (I'll need to tweak it as I already override PERL5LIB; also I need to specify http proxies). Thanks for your help! -- [[users/Jon]]
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##Further problems with Bundle::IkiWiki
I'm also having trouble with finding Bundle::IkiWiki. I've tried it with the environment settings and without them, and also using the interactive
form of the cpan command. I've also gone to cpan.org and searched -- eg
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=ikiwiki&mode=all
and no Bundle for IkiWiki comes up at all.
The error I get from the various cpan attempts is basically always the same:
Warning: Cannot install Bundle::IkiWiki, don't know what it is.
Try the command
i /Bundle::IkiWiki/
to find objects with matching identifiers.
When I try that command, BTW, it basically seems to find the same stuff I get when searching on the cpan web site.
This happens both on Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.1
Any help would be greatly appreciated... --kent
> Bundle::IkiWiki is included in ikiwiki itself, so of course cpan.org
> does not know about it.
>
> If you can show me exactly what command you ran (the tested, working
> commands on the parent page?) and how it failed, I can try to debug
> your problem.
Just today I noticed the "Bundle" subdirectory. What a moron I am! :-) Also, I misunderstood the PERL5LIB=`pwd` part --
I glibly thought it indicated the sink for the installation of the modules, rather than the source, and I was running
the cpan command from another window in a different directory, and just spiraled down into error...
> The real question in my mind is why you'd want to do this at all when
> using Ubuntu, which incldues packages of ikiwiki and all its
> dependencies. --[[Joey]]
For ubuntu 8.04:
$ ikiwiki --version
ikiwiki version 2.32.3ubuntu2.1
$
I was just trying to get the latest version.
In any case, thanks for the help, and thanks for the superb software. I really like it a lot.
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## Prerequisite modules not found for non-root user
Hi, I'm a non-root user trying to use IkiWiki on an academic webserver with Perl 5.8.8 but several missing modules, so I grab them from CPAN (edited):
cd ~; PERL5LIB=`pwd`/ikiwiki:`pwd`/ikiwiki/cpan:`pwd`/lib/perl5 PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1 perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install("Bundle::IkiWiki")'
That puts a lot of files in ~/.cpan. Then when I go into the directory where I untarred IkiWiki and try to run the Perl makefile:
cd ~/ikiwiki; perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$HOME/ikiwiki
I get warnings that all the modules needed were not found:
Warning: prerequisite CGI::FormBuilder not found.
Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite Date::Parse 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite HTML::Scrubber 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite HTML::Template 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite Mail::Sendmail 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite Text::Markdown 0 not found.
CORRECTION 1: I played around with CPAN and got the installation to the point of succeeding with >99% of tests in "make test".
> What was the magic CPAN rune that worked for you? --[[Joey]]
An attempt of "make install" failed while trying to put files in /etc/IkiWiki but per the output's instructions, I reran "make install" and that seemed to work, until this error, which doesn't seem to be satisfiable:
Warning: You do not have permissions to install into /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 114.
Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki.pm
mkdir /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 176
Any suggestions? Whew!
> When you build ikiwiki, try doing it like this to make it
> install to your home directory. Then you can run `~/bin/ikiwiki`
> --[[Joey]]
perl Makefile.PL INSTALL_BASE=$HOME PREFIX=
make
make install
---
03 September 2010, Report on successful manual install in Debian 5 (Lenny) AMD64:
note: Maybe much more easy using backports, but using this tools you get a plain user cpan :)
This where my steps:
As root (#):
aptitude install build-essential curl perl
As plain user ($), I use to install user perl modules using local::lib
mkdir -p "$HOME/downloads"
cd "$HOME/downloads/"
wget http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/G/GE/GETTY/local-lib-1.006007.tar.gz
wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ikiwiki/ikiwiki_3.20100831.tar.gz
tar -zxf local-lib-1.006007.tar.gz
cd local-lib-1.006007/
perl Makefile.PL --bootstrap=~/.perl5
make test && make install
echo 'eval $(perl -I$HOME/.perl5/lib/perl5 -Mlocal::lib=$HOME/.perl5)' >>~/.bashrc
. ~/.bashrc
curl -L http://cpanmin.us | perl - App::cpanminus
cpanm CGI::FormBuilder
cpanm CGI::Session
cpanm HTML::Parser
cpanm HTML::Template
cpanm HTML::Scrubber
cpanm Text::Markdown
cpanm URI
cd ..
tar -zxf ikiwiki_3.20100831.tar.gz
cd ikiwiki/
perl Makefile.PL INSTALL_BASE= PREFIX=/home/$USER/.perl5
make test # All tests successful.
make install INSTALL_BASE=/home/$USER/.perl5
. ~/.bashrc
Using cpan or cpanm with local::lib, you can install any other dependency, as plain user (in your home). XS modules may need -dev packages.
After all, here it's:
ikiwiki -version
ikiwiki version 3.20100831
It seems like this installation looses the /etc files (we're as plain user), but this can be used as a workaround:
ikiwiki -setup ~/downloads/ikiwiki/auto.setup
I've not investigated more the /etc files ussage, but does not seems like a good idea to be as plain user...
/etc/ikiwiki/wikilist does not exist
** Failed to add you to the system wikilist file.
** (Probably ikiwiki-update-wikilist is not SUID root.)
** Your wiki will not be automatically updated when ikiwiki is upgraded.
Iñigo