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# Security review
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## Probable holes
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_(The list of things to fix.)_
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### po4a-gettextize
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* po4a CVS 2009-01-16
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* Perl 5.10.0
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`po4a-gettextize` uses more or less the same po4a features as our
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`refreshpot` function.
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Without specifying an input charset, zzuf'ed `po4a-gettextize` quickly
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errors out, complaining it was not able to detect the input charset;
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it leaves no incomplete file on disk. I therefore had to pretend the
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input was in UTF-8, as does the po plugin.
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zzuf -c -s 13 -r 0.1 \
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po4a-gettextize -f text -o markdown -M utf-8 -L utf-8 \
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-m GPL-3 -p GPL-3.pot
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Crashes with:
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Malformed UTF-8 character (UTF-16 surrogate 0xdfa4) in substitution
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iterator at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/Po4a/Po.pm line 1449.
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Malformed UTF-8 character (fatal) at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/Po4a/Po.pm
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line 1449.
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An incomplete pot file is left on disk. Unfortunately Po.pm tells us
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nothing about the place where the crash happens.
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> It's fairly standard perl behavior when fed malformed utf-8. As long
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> as it doesn't crash ikiwiki, it's probably acceptable. Ikiwiki can
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> do some similar things itself when fed malformed utf-8 (doesn't
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> crash tho) --[[Joey]]
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----
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## Potential gotchas
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_(Things not to do.)_
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### Blindly activating more po4a format modules
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The format modules we want to use have to be checked, as not all are
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safe (e.g. the LaTeX module's behaviour is changed by commands
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included in the content); they may use regexps generated from
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the content.
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## Hopefully non-holes
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_(AKA, the assumptions that will be the root of most security holes...)_
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### PO file features
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No [documented](http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#PO-Files)
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directive that can be put in po files is supposed to cause mischief
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(ie, include other files, run commands, crash gettext, whatever).
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### gettext
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#### Security history
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The only past security issue I could find in GNU gettext is
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[CVE-2004-0966](http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2004-0966),
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*i.e.* [Debian bug #278283](http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=278283):
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the autopoint and gettextize scripts in the GNU gettext package (1.14
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and later versions) may allow local users to overwrite files via
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a symlink attack on temporary files.
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This plugin would not have allowed to exploit this bug, as it does not
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use, either directly or indirectly, the faulty scripts.
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Note: the lack of found security issues can either indicate that there
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are none, or reveal that no-one ever bothered to find or publish them.
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#### msgmerge
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`refreshpofiles()` runs this external program.
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* I was not able to crash it with `zzuf`.
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* I could not find any past security hole.
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#### msgfmt
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`isvalidpo()` runs this external program.
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* I was not able to make it behave badly using zzuf: it exits cleanly
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when too many errors are detected.
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* I could not find any past security hole.
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### po4a
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#### Security history
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The only past security issue I could find in po4a is
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[CVE-2007-4462](http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4462):
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`lib/Locale/Po4a/Po.pm` in po4a before 0.32 allowed local users to
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overwrite arbitrary files via a symlink attack on the
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gettextization.failed.po temporary file.
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This plugin would not have allowed to exploit this bug, as it does not
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use, either directly or indirectly, the faulty `gettextize` function.
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Note: the lack of found security issues can either indicate that there
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are none, or reveal that no-one ever bothered to find or publish them.
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#### General feeling
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Are there any security issues on running po4a on untrusted content?
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To say the least, this issue is not well covered, at least publicly:
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* the documentation does not talk about it;
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* grep'ing the source code for `security` or `trust` gives no answer.
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On the other hand, a po4a developer answered my questions in
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a convincing manner, stating that processing untrusted content was not
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an initial goal, and analysing in detail the possible issues.
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The following analysis was done with his help.
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#### Details
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* the core (`Po.pm`, `Transtractor.pm`) should be safe
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* po4a source code was fully checked for other potential symlink
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attacks, after discovery of one such issue
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* the only external program run by the core is `diff`, in `Po.pm` (in
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parts of its code we don't use)
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* `Locale::gettext` is only used to display translated error messages
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* Nicolas François "hopes" `DynaLoader` is safe, and has "no reason to
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think that `Encode` is not safe"
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* Nicolas François has "no reason to think that `Encode::Guess` is not
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safe". The po plugin nevertheless avoids using it by defining the
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input charset (`file_in_charset`) before asking `TransTractor` to
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read any file. NB: this hack depends on po4a internals.
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##### Locale::Po4a::Text
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* does not run any external program
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* only `do_paragraph()` builds regexp's that expand untrusted
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variables; according to [[Joey]], this is "Freaky code, but seems ok
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due to use of `quotementa`".
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##### Locale::Po4a::Xhtml
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* does not run any external program
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* does not build regexp's from untrusted variables
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=> Seems safe as far as the `includessi` option is disabled; the po
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plugin explicitly disables it.
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Relies on Locale::Po4a::Xml` to do most of the work.
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##### Locale::Po4a::Xml
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* does not run any external program
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* the `includeexternal` option makes it able to read external files;
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the po plugin explicitly disables it
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* untrusted variables are escaped when used to build regexp's
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##### Text::WrapI18N
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`Text::WrapI18N` can cause DoS
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([Debian bug #470250](http://bugs.debian.org/470250)).
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It is optional, and we do not need the features it provides.
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If a recent enough po4a (>=0.35) is installed, this module's use is
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fully disabled. Else, the wiki administrator is warned about this
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at runtime.
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##### Term::ReadKey
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`Term::ReadKey` is not a hard dependency in our case, *i.e.* po4a
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works nicely without it. But the po4a Debian package recommends
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`libterm-readkey-perl`, so it will probably be installed on most
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systems using the po plugin.
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`Term::ReadKey` has too far reaching implications for us to
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be able to guarantee anything wrt. security.
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If a recent enough po4a (>=2009-01-15 CVS, which will probably be
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released as 0.35) is installed, this module's use is fully disabled.
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##### Fuzzing input
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###### po4a-translate
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* po4a CVS 2009-01-16
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* Perl 5.10.0
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`po4a-translate` uses more or less the same po4a features as our
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`filter` function.
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Without specifying an input charset, same behaviour as
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`po4a-gettextize`, so let's specify UTF-8 as input charset as of now.
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`LICENSES` is a 21M file containing 100 concatenated copies of all the
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files in `/usr/share/common-licenses/`; I had no existing PO file or
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translated versions at hand, which renders these tests
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quite incomplete.
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zzuf -cv -s 0:10 -r 0.001:0.3 \
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po4a-translate -d -f text -o markdown -M utf-8 -L utf-8 \
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-k 0 -m LICENSES -p LICENSES.fr.po -l test.fr
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... seems to lose the fight, at the `readpo(LICENSES.fr.po)` step,
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against some kind of infinite loop, deadlock, or any similar beast.
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The root of this bug lies in `Text::WrapI18N`, see the corresponding
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section.
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----
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## Fixed holes
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# original contrib/po page, with old commentary
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I've been working on a plugin called "po", that adds support for multi-lingual wikis,
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translated with gettext, using [po4a](http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/).
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More information:
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* It can be found in my "po" branch:
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`git clone git://gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org/ikiwiki.git`
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* It is self-contained, *i.e.* it does not modify ikiwiki core at all.
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* It is documented (including TODO and plans for next work steps) in
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`doc/plugins/po.mdwn`, which can be found in the same branch.
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* No public demo site is available so far, I'm working on this.
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My plan is to get this plugin clean enough to be included in ikiwiki.
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The current version is a proof-of-concept, mature enough for me to dare submitting it here,
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but I'm prepared to hear various helpful remarks, and to rewrite parts of it as needed.
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Any thoughts on this?
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> Well, I think it's pretty stunning what you've done here. Seems very
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> complete and well thought out. I have not read the code in great detail
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> yet.
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>
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> Just using po files is an approach I've never seen tried with a wiki. I
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> suspect it will work better for some wikis than others. For wikis that
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> just want translations that match the master language as closely as
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> possible and don't wander off and diverge, it seems perfect. (But what happens
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> if someone edits the Discussion page of a translated page?)
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>
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> Please keep me posted, when you get closer to having all issues solved
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> and ready for merging I can do a review and hopefully help with the
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> security items you listed. --[[Joey]]
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>> Thanks a lot for your quick review, it's reassuring to hear such nice words
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>> from you. I did not want to design and write a full translation system, when
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>> tools such as gettext/po4a already have all the needed functionality, for cases
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>> where the master/slave languages paradigm fits.
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>> Integrating these tools into ikiwiki plugin system was a pleasure.
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>>
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>> I'll tell you when I'm ready for merging, but in the meantime,
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>> I'd like you to review the changes I did to the core (3 added hooks).
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>> Can you please do this? If not, I'll go on and hope I'm not going to far in
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>> the wrong direction.
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>>
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>>> Sure.. I'm not completly happy with any of the hooks since they're very
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>>> special purpose, and also since `run_hooks` is not the best interface
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>>> for a hook that modifies a variable, where only the last hook run will
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>>> actually do anything. It might be better to just wrap
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>>> `targetpage`, `bestlink`, and `beautify_urlpath`. But, I noticed
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>>> the other day that such wrappers around exported functions are only visible by
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>>> plugins loaded after the plugin that defines them.
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>>>
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>>> Update: Take a look at the new "Function overriding" section of
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>>> [[plugins/write]]. I think you can just inject wrappers about a few ikiwiki
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>>> functions, rather than adding hooks. The `inject` function is pretty
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>>> insane^Wlow level, but seems to work great. --[[Joey]]
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>>>
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>>>> Thanks a lot, it seems to be a nice interface for what I was trying to achieve.
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>>>> I may be forced to wait two long weeks before I have a chance to confirm
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>>>> this. Stay tuned. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>
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>>>>> I've updated the plugin to use `inject`. It is now fully self-contained,
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>>>>> and does not modify the core anymore. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>
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>> The Discussion pages issue is something I am not sure about yet. But I will
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>> probably decide that "slave" pages, being only translations, don't deserve
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>> a discussion page: the discussion should happen in the language in which the
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>> pages are written for real, which is the "master" one. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>
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>> I think that's a good decision, you don't want to translate discussion,
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>> and if the discussion page turns out multilingual, well, se la vi. ;-)
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>>
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>> Relatedly, what happens if a translated page has a broken link, and you
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>> click on it to edit it? Seems you'd first have to create a master page
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>> and could only then translate it, right? I wonder if this will be clear
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>> though to the user.
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>>
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>>> Right: a broken link points to the URL that allows to create
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>>> a page that can either be a new master page or a non-translatable
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>>> page, depending on `po_translatable_pages` value. The best
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>>> solution I can thing of is to use [[plugins/edittemplate]] to
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>>> insert something like "Warning: this is a master page, that must
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>>> be written in $MASTER_LANGUAGE" into newly created master pages,
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>>> and maybe another warning message on newly created
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>>> non-translatable pages. It seems quite doable to me, but in order
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>>> to avoid breaking existing functionality, it implies to hack a bit
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>>> [[plugins/edittemplate]] so that multiple templates can be
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>>> inserted at page creation time. [[--intrigeri]]
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>>>
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>>>> I implemented such a warning using the formbuilder_setup hook.
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>>>> --[[intrigeri]]
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>>
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>> And also, is there any way to start a translation of a page into a new
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>> lanauge using the web interface?
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>>
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>>> When a new language is added to `po_slave_languages`, a rebuild is
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>>> triggered, and all missing PO files are created and checked into
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>>> VCS. An unpriviledged wiki user can not add a new language to
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>>> `po_slave_languages`, though. One could think of adding the needed
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>>> interface to translate a page into a yet-unsupported slave
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>>> language, and this would automagically add this new language to
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>>> `po_slave_languages`. It would probably be useful in some
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>>> usecases, but I'm not comfortable with letting unpriviledged wiki
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>>> users change the wiki configuration as a side effect of their
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>>> actions; if this were to be implemented, special care would be
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>>> needed. [[--intrigeri]]
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>>>
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>>>> Actually I meant into any of the currently supported languages.
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>>>> I guess that if the template modification is made, it will list those
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>>>> languages on the page, and if a translation to a language is missing,
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>>>> the link will allow creating it?
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>>>>
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>>>>> Any translation page always exist for every supported slave
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>>>>> language, even if no string at all have been translated yet.
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>>>>> This implies the po plugin is especially friendly to people who
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>>>>> prefer reading in their native language if available, but don't
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>>>>> mind reading in English else.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> While I'm at it, there is a remaining issue that needs to be
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>>>>> sorted out: how painful it could be for non-English speakers
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>>>>> (assuming the master language is English) to be perfectly able
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>>>>> to navigate between translation pages supposed to be written in
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>>>>> their own language, when their translation level is most
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>>>>> often low.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> (It is currently easy to display this status on the translation
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>>>>> page itself, but then it's too late, and how frustrating to load
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>>>>> a page just to realize it's actually not translated enough for
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>>>>> you. The "other languages" loop also allows displaying this
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>>>>> information, but it is generally not the primary
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>>>>> navigation tool.)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> IMHO, this is actually a social problem (i.e. it's no use adding
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>>>>> a language to the supported slave ones if you don't have the
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>>>>> manpower to actually do the translations), that can't be fully
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>>>>> solved by technical solutions, but I can think of some hacks
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>>>>> that would limit the negative impact: a given translation's
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>>>>> status (currently = percent translated) could be displayed next
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>>>>> to the link that leads to it; a color code could as well be used
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>>>>> ("just" a matter of adding a CSS id or class to the links,
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>>>>> depending on this variable). As there is already work to be done
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>>>>> to have the links text generation more customizable through
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>>>>> plugins, I could do both at the same time if we consider this
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>>>>> matter to be important enough. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>>
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>>>>>> The translation status in links is now implemented in my
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>>>>>> `po`branch. It requires my `meta` branch changes to
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>>>>>> work, though. I consider the latter to be mature enough to
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>>>>>> be merged. --[[intrigeri]]
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>> FWIW, I'm tracking your po branch in ikiwiki master git in the po
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>> branch. One thing I'd like to try in there is setting up a translated
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>> basewiki, which seems like it should be pretty easy to do, and would be
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>> a great demo! --[[Joey]]
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>>
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>>> I have a complete translation of basewiki into danish, available merged into
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>>> ikiwiki at git://source.jones.dk/ikiwiki-upstream (branch underlay-da), and am working with
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>>> others on preparing one in german. For a complete translated user
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>>> experience, however, you will also need templates translated (there are a few
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>>> translatable strings there too). My most recent po4a Markdown improvements
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>>> adopted upstream but not yet in Debian (see
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>>> [bug#530574](http://bugs.debian.org/530574)) correctly handles multiple
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>>> files in a single PO which might be relevant for template translation handling.
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>>> --[[JonasSmedegaard]]
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>>
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>>> I've merged your changes into my own branch, and made great
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>>> progress on the various todo items. Please note my repository
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>>> location has changed a few days ago, my user page was updated
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>>> accordingly, but I forgot to update this page at the same time.
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>>> Hoping it's not too complicated to relocated an existing remote...
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>>> (never done that, I'm a Git beginner as well as a Perl
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>>> newbie) --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>
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>>>> Just a matter of editing .git/config, thanks for the heads up.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Joey, please have a look at my branch, your help would be really
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>>>>> welcome for the security research, as I'm almost done with what
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>>>>> I am able to do myself in this area. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> I came up with a patch for the WrapI18N issue --[[Joey]]
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I've set this plugin development aside for a while. I will be back and
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finish it at some point in the first quarter of 2009. --[[intrigeri]]
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> Abstract: Joey, please have a look at my po and meta branches.
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>
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> Detailed progress report:
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>
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> * it seems the po branch in your repository has not been tracking my
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> own po branch for two months. any config issue?
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> * all the plugin's todo items have been completed, robustness tests
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> done
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> * I've finished the detailed security audit, and the fix for po4a
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> bugs has entered upstream CVS last week
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> * I've merged your new `checkcontent` hook with the `cansave` hook
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> I previously introduced in my own branch; blogspam plugin updated
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> accordingly
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> * the rename hook changes we discussed elsewhere are also part of my
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> branch
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> * I've introduced two new hooks (`canremove` and `canrename`), not
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> a big deal; IMHO, they extend quite logically the plugin interface
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> * as highlighted on [[bugs/pagetitle_function_does_not_respect_meta_titles]],
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> my `meta` branch contains a new feature that is really useful in a
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> translatable wiki
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>
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> As a conclusion, I'm feeling that my branches are ready to be
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> merged; only thing missing, I guess, are a bit of discussion and
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> subsequent adjustments.
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>
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> --[[intrigeri]]
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> I've looked it over and updated my branch with some (untested)
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> changes.
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>
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>> I've merged your changes into my branch. Only one was buggy.
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>
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> Sorry, I'd forgotten about your cansave hook.. sorry for the duplicate
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> work there.
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>
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> Reviewing the changes, mostly outside of `po.pm`, I have
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> the following issues.
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>
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> * renamepage to renamelink change would break the ikiwiki
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> 3.x API, which I've promised not to do, so needs to be avoided
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> somehow. (Sorry, I guess I dropped the ball on not getting this
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> API change in before cutting 3.0..)
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>>
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>> Fixed, see [[todo/need_global_renamepage_hook]].
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>>
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> * I don't understand the parentlinks code change and need to figure it
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> out. Can you explain what is going on there?
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>>
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>> I'm calling `bestlink` there so that po's injected `bestlink` is
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>> run. This way, the parent links of a page link to the parent page
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>> version in the proper language, depending on the
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>> `po_link_to=current` and `po_link_to=negotiated` settings.
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>> Moreover, when using my meta branch enhancements plus meta title to
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>> make pages titles translatable, this small patch is needed to get
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>> the translated titles into parentlinks.
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>>
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> * canrename's mix of positional and named parameters is way too
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> ugly to get into an ikiwiki API. Use named parameters
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> entirely. Also probably should just use named parameters
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> for canremove.
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> * `skeleton.pm.example`'s canrename needs fixing to use either
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> the current or my suggested parameters.
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>>
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>> Done.
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>>
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> * I don't like the exporting of `%backlinks` and `$backlinks_calculated`
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> (the latter is exported but not used).
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>>
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>> The commit message for 85f865b5d98e0122934d11e3f3eb6703e4f4c620
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>> contains the rationale for this change. I guess I don't understand
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>> the subtleties of `our` use, and perldoc does not help me a lot.
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>> IIRC, I actually did not use `our` to "export" these variables, but
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>> rather to have them shared between `Render.pm` uses.
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>>
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>>> My wording was unclear, I meant exposing. --[[Joey]]
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>>>
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>>>> I guess I still don't know Perl's `our` enough to understand clearly.
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>>>> No matter whether these variables are declared with `my` or `our`,
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>>>> any plugin can `use IkiWiki::Render` and then access
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>>>> `$IkiWiki::backlinks`, as already does e.g. the pagestat plugin.
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>>>> So I guess your problem is not with letting plugins use these
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>>>> variables, but with them being visible for every piece of
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>>>> (possibly external) code called from `Render.pm`. Am I right?
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>>>> If I understand clearly, using a brace block to lexically enclose
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>>>> these two `our` declarations, alongside with the `calculate_backlinks`
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>>>> and `backlinks` subs definitions, would be a proper solution, wouldn't
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>>>> it? --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>
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>>>>> No, %backlinks and the backlinks() function are not the same thing.
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>>>>> The variable is lexically scoped; only accessible from inside
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>>>>> `Render.pm` --[[Joey]]
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>>>>
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> * What is this `IkiWiki::nicepagetitle` and why are you
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> injecting it into that namespace when only your module uses it?
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> Actually, I can't even find a caller of it in your module.
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>>
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>> I guess you should have a look to my `meta` branch and to
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>> [[bugs/pagetitle_function_does_not_respect_meta_titles]] in order
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>> to understand this :)
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>>
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>>> It would probably be good if I could merge this branch without
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>>> having to worry about also immediatly merging that one. --[[Joey]]
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>>>
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>>>> I removed all dependencies on my `meta` branch from the `po` one.
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>>>> This implied removing the `po_translation_status_in_links` and
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>>>> `po_strictly_refresh_backlinks` features, and every link text is now
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>>>> displayed in the master language. I believe the removed features really
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>>>> enhance user experience of a translatable wiki, that's why I was
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>>>> initially supposing the `meta` branch would be merged first.
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>>>> IMHO, we'll need to come back to this quite soon after `po` is merged.
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>>>> --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>
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>>>> Maybe you should keep those features in a meta-po branch?
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>>>> I did a cursory review of your meta last night, have some issues with it,
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>>>> but this page isn't the place for a detailed review. --[[Joey]]
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>>>>
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>>>>> Done. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>
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> * I'm very fearful of the `add_depends` in `indexhtml`.
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> Does this make every page depend on every page that links
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> to it? Won't this absurdly bloat the dependency pagespecs
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> and slow everything down? And since nicepagetitle is given
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> as the reason for doing it, and nicepagetitle isn't used,
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> why do it?
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>>
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>> As explained in the 85f865b5d98e0122934d11e3f3eb6703e4f4c620 log:
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>> this feature hits performance a bit. Its cost was quite small in my
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>> real-world use-cases (a few percents bigger refresh time), but
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>> could be bigger in worst cases. When using the po plugin with my
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>> meta branch changes (i.e. the `nicepagetitle` thing), and having
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>> enabled the option to display translation status in links, this
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>> maintains the translation status up-to-date in backlinks. Same when
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>> using meta title to make the pages titles translatable. It does
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>> help having a nice and consistent translated wiki, but as it can
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>> also involve problems, I just turned it into an option.
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>>
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>>> This has been completely removed for now due to the removal of
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>>> the dependency on my `meta` branch. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>
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> * The po4a Suggests should be versioned to the first version
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> that can be used safely, and that version documented in
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> `plugins/po.mdwn`.
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>>
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>> Done.
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>>
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>> --[[intrigeri]]
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>
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> --[[Joey]]
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I reverted the `%backlinks` and `$backlinks_calculated` exposing.
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The issue they were solving probably will arise again when I'll work
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on my meta branch again (i.e. when the simplified po one is merged),
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but the po thing is supposed to work without these ugly `our`.
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Seems like it was the last unaddressed item from Joey's review, so I'm
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daring a timid "please pull"... or rather, please review again :)
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--[[intrigeri]]
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> Ok, I've reviewed and merged into my own po branch. It's looking very
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> mergeable.
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>
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> * Is it worth trying to fix compatability with `indexpages`?
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>>
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>> Supporting `usedirs` being enabled or disabled was already quite
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>> hard IIRC, so supporting all four combinations of `usedirs` and
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>> `indexpages` settings will probably be painful. I propose we forget
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>> about it until someone reports he/she badly needs it, and then
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>> we'll see what can be done.
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>>
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> * Would it make sense to go ahead and modify `page.tmpl` to use
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> OTHERLANGUAGES and PERCENTTRANSLATED, instead of documenting how to modify it?
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>>
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>> Done in my branch.
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>>
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> * Would it be better to disable po support for pages that use unsupported
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> or poorly-supported markup languages?
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>
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>> I prefer keeping it enabled, as:
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>>
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>> * most wiki markups "almost work"
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>> * when someone needs one of these to be fully supported, it's not
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>> that hard to add dedicated support for it to po4a; if it were
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>> disabled, I fear the ones who could do this would maybe think
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>> it's blandly impossible and give up.
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>>
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> * What's the reasoning behind checking that the link plugin
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> is enabled? AFAICS, the same code in the scan hook should
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> also work when other link plugins like camelcase are used.
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>>
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>> That's right, fixed.
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>>
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> * In `pagetemplate` there is a comment that claims the code
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> relies on `genpage`, but I don't see how it does; it seems
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> to always add a discussion link?
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>>
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>> It relies on IkiWiki::Render's `genpage` as this function sets the
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>> `discussionlink` template param iff it considers a discussion link
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>> should appear on the current page. That's why I'm testing
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>> `$template->param('discussionlink')`.
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>>
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>>> Maybe I was really wondering why it says it could lead to a broken
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>>> link if the cgiurl is disabled. I think I see why now: Discussionlink
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>>> will be set to a link to an existing disucssion page, even if cgi is
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>>> disabled -- but there's no guarantee of a translated discussion page
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>>> existing in that case. *However*, htmllink actually checks
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>>> for this case, and will avoid generating a broken link so AFAICS, the
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>>> comment is actually innacurate.. what will really happen in this case
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>>> is discussionlink will be set to a non-link translation of
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>>> "discussion". Also, I consider `$config{cgi}` and `%links` (etc)
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>>> documented parts of the plugin interface, which won't change; po could
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>>> rely on them to avoid this minor problem. --[[Joey]]
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>>>>
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>>>> Done in my branch. --[[intrigeri]]
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>>>>
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>
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> * Is there any real reason not to allow removing a translation?
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> I'm imagining a spammy translation, which an admin might not
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> be able to fix, but could remove.
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>>
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>> On the other hand, allowing one to "remove" a translation would
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>> probably lead to misunderstandings, as such a "removed" translation
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>> page would appear back as soon as it is "removed" (with no strings
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>> translated, though). I think an admin would be in a position to
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>> delete the spammy `.po` file by hand using whatever VCS is in use.
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>> Not that I'd really care, but I am slightly in favour of the way
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>> it currently works.
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>>
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>>> That would definitly be confusing. It sounds to me like if we end up
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>>> needing to allow web-based deletion of spammy translations, it will
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>>> need improvements to the deletion UI to de-confuse that. It's fine to
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>>> put that off until needed --[[Joey]]
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>>
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* As discussed at [[todo/l10n]] the templates needs to be translatable too. They
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should be treated properly by po4a using the markdown option - at least with my
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later patches in [bug#530574](http://bugs.debian.org/530574)) applied.
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* It seems to me that the po plugin (and possibly other parts of ikiwiki) wrongly
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uses gettext. As I understand it, gettext (as used currently in ikiwiki) always
|
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lookup a single language, That might make sense for a single-language site, but
|
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multilingual sites should emit all strings targeted at the web output in each own
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language.
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So generally the system language (used for e.g. compile warnings) should be separated
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from both master language and slave languages.
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Preferrably the gettext subroutine could be extended to pass locale as optional
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secondary parameter overriding the default locale (for messages like "N/A" as
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percentage in po plugin). Alternatively (with above mentioned template support)
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all such strings could be externalized as templates that can then be localized.
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# Robustness tests
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### Enabling/disabling the plugin
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* enabling the plugin with `po_translatable_pages` set to blacklist: **OK**
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* enabling the plugin with `po_translatable_pages` set to whitelist: **OK**
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* enabling the plugin without `po_translatable_pages` set: **OK**
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* disabling the plugin: **OK**
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### Changing the plugin config
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* adding existing pages to `po_translatable_pages`: **OK**
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|
* removing existing pages from `po_translatable_pages`: **OK**
|
|
* adding a language to `po_slave_languages`: **OK**
|
|
* removing a language from `po_slave_languages`: **OK**
|
|
* changing `po_master_language`: **OK**
|
|
* replacing `po_master_language` with a language previously part of
|
|
`po_slave_languages`: needs two rebuilds, but **OK** (this is quite
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|
a perverse test actually)
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|
|
### Creating/deleting/renaming pages
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|
|
|
All cases of master/slave page creation/deletion/rename, both via RCS
|
|
and via CGI, have been tested.
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|
|
|
### Misc
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|
|
|
* general test with `usedirs` disabled: **OK**
|
|
* general test with `indexpages` enabled: **not OK**
|
|
* general test with `po_link_to=default` with `userdirs` enabled: **OK**
|
|
* general test with `po_link_to=default` with `userdirs` disabled: **OK**
|
|
|
|
Duplicate %links ?
|
|
------------------
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|
|
|
I notice code in the scan hook that seems to assume
|
|
that %links will accumulate duplicate links for a page.
|
|
That used to be so, but the bug was fixed. Does this mean
|
|
that po might be replacing the only link on a page, in error?
|
|
--[[Joey]]
|
|
|
|
> It would replace it. The only problematic case is when another
|
|
> plugin has its own reasons, in its `scan` hook, to add a page
|
|
> that is already there to `$links{$page}`. This other plugin's
|
|
> effect might then be changed by po's `scan` hook... which could
|
|
> be either good (better overall l10n) or bad (break the other
|
|
> plugin's goal). --[[intrigeri]]
|
|
|
|
>> Right.. well, the cases where links are added is very small.
|
|
>> Grepping for `add_link`, it's just done by link, camelcase, meta, and
|
|
>> tag. All of these are supposed to work just link regular links
|
|
>> so I'd think that is ok. We could probably remove the currently scary
|
|
>> comment about only wanting to change the first link. --[[Joey]]
|
|
|
|
>>> Commit 3c2bffe21b91684 in my po branch does this. --[[intrigeri]]
|
|
>>>> Cherry-picked --[[Joey]]
|
|
|
|
----
|
|
# Failing to have currentlang respected when using inline
|
|
I am trying to wrap my head around l10n with ikiwiki. Set up a test site, l10n is working fine.
|
|
Now when inlining a bunch of pages, no matter what inline template I use all links are
|
|
going to the master language, the slave being ignored on all levels I tried.
|
|
|
|
Trying to use currentlang() inside the inline directive to force the current setting in ikiwiki.setup - I get **no pages or links** to pages at all.
|
|
\[[!inline pages=\"man/* and currentlang() and !*/sidebar and !*/b and !*.*\" template=\"inlinepage\" archive=\"yes\" quick=\"yes\" show=\"0\" sort=\"mtime\" reverse=\"no\"]]
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|
|
Turning meta title on slave translation pages on and off - **no change**.
|
|
Turning usedirs on and off - **no change**.
|
|
Testing with different inline templates - **no change**.
|
|
Trying the use of tags on the slave language pages - **tagged() doesn't match any tagged pages**.
|
|
|
|
I tried everything I could think of being the cause.
|
|
Could this be related to the templates used by inline not being localized?
|
|
Any hints wether I am currently running into some dead end with ikiwiki regarding template l10n here would be greatly appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Besides: When using the map instead of the inline directive, regarding l10n all is working like it should, pitty is that for the kind of deployment I am heading for I will also need pages to be included with a custom template. --[[Boris]]
|
|
|
|
# Does not show up in the setup
|
|
|
|
Hello, I am not sure whether it's the right way to add a comment here, but I downloaded po4a from Debian repository and built it. Typing 'use Locale::Po4a::Po;' into a 'perl' session doesn't interrupt it -- I believe it is installed already. Yet in websetup there is no 'use po?' section. I am at a loss what to do. I am using nearlyfreespeech for hosting. --[[users/svetlana]]
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|
|
> It should be in a section headed "format plugin: po". If that doesn't appear, try
|
|
> `perl -MIkiWiki::Plugin::po -e ''` (or equivalently, `use IkiWiki::Plugin::po;` in
|
|
> an interactive Perl session) and see whether there are useful error messages. --[[smcv]]
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|
|
> > I had to set ikiwiki's INSTALL_BASE to ~/perl5, and install local::lib, to get the wiki to see Locale::Po4a::Po. What was helpful is `ikiwiki --setup wiki/ikiwiki.setup --wrappers` as it outputs the useful error message straight away if it can't find something in @INC. It is finally working now. --[[users/svetlana]]
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|
|
# Confuses a map
|
|
|
|
The `\[[!map pages="*"]]` directive works in confused ways when po plugin is enabled. It lists items like this:
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|
|
- [foo](foo/index.en.html)
|
|
- [index.ru](foo/index.ru)
|
|
- [index.ja](foo/index.ja)
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|
|
I'm not sure what to do with it, I would like to be able to list pages only in one language. --[[users/svetlana]] 10:10AM February 8, 2017
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