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I've got a wiki where editing requires [[plugins/httpauth]] (with
`cgiauthurl` working nicely). I now want to let the general public
edit Discussion subpages, so I enabled [[plugins/anonok]] and set
`anonok_pagespec` to `'*/Discussion'`, but HTTP auth is still being
required for those.
(Actually, what I'll really want to do is probably [[plugins/lockedit]]
and a whitelist of OpenIDs in `locked_pages`...)
--[[schmonz]]
> The only way I can see to support this combination is for httpauth with
> cgiauthurl to work more like other actual login types. Which would mean
> that on editing a page that needs authentication, ikiwiki would redirect
> them to the Signin page, which would then have a link they could follow
> to bounce through the cgiauthurl and actually sign in. This would be
> significantly different than the regular httpauth process, in which the
> user signs in in passing. --[[Joey]]
>> My primary userbase has grown accustomed to the seamlessness of
>> httpauth with SPNEGO, so I'd rather not reintroduce a seam into
>> their web-editing experience in order to let relatively few outsiders
>> edit relatively few pages. When is the decision made about whether
>> the current page can be edited by the current user (if any)? What
>> if there were a way to require particular auth plugins for particular
>> PageSpecs? --[[schmonz]]
>>> The decision about whether a user can edit a page is made by plugins
>>> such as signinedit and lockedit, that also use canedit hooks to redirect
>>> the user to a signin page if necessary.
>>>
>>> A tweak on my earlier suggestion would be to have httpauth notice when the
>>> Signin page is being built and immediatly redirect to the cgiauthurl
>>> before the page can be shown to the user. This would, though, not play
>>> well with other authentication methods like openid, since the user
>>> would never see the Signin form. --[[Joey]]
>>>> Would I be able to do what I want with a local plugin that
>>>> abuses canedit (and auth) to reach in and call the appropriate
>>>> plugin's auth method -- e.g., if the page matches */Discussion,
>>>> call `openid:auth()`, else `httpauth:auth()`? --[[schmonz]]
>>>>> That seems it would be
>>>>> annoying for httpauth users (who were not currently authed),
>>>>> as they would then see the openid signin form when going to edit a
>>>>> Discussion page.
>>>>> --[[Joey]]
>>>>>> I finally see the problem, I think. When you initially
>>>>>> suggested "a link they could follow to bounce through the
>>>>>> cgiauthurl", presumably this could _be_ the Edit link for
>>>>>> non-Discussion pages, so that the typical case of an httpauth
>>>>>> user editing an editable-only-by-httpauth page doesn't visibly
>>>>>> change. And then the Edit link for Discussion subpages could do
>>>>>> as you suggest, adding one click for the httpauth user, who won't
>>>>>> often need to edit those subpages. --[[schmonz]]