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Ok, I have to admit, I have no idea if this is an April fool's joke or not.
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Congratulations for demonstrating that April fools jokes can still be subtle
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(whether intentionally or not!) -- [[Jon]]
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> Having said all that, have you looked at erlang? Have you heard of couchdb?
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> I'd strongly recommend looking at that. -- [[Jon]]
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>> I've glanced at couchdb, but don't see how it would tie in with ikiwiki.
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>> --[[Joey]]
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>>> It doesn't really. I recently (re-)read about couchdb and thought that
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>>> what it was trying to do had some comparisons with the thinking going on
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>>> in [[todo/structured_page_data]]. -- [[Jon]]
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I'm torn about this idea, if it's actually serious. I'm very comfortable
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programming in Perl, and have written quite a few modules for IkiWiki, and
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it would be a huge pain to have to start from scratch all over again. On
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the other hand, this could be a motivation for me to learn Haskell. My
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only encounter with Haskell has been a brief time when I was using the
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Xmonad window manager, but it looks like an interesting language.
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Functional programming is cool.
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There are a lot of interesting plusses for Haskell you note (in the parent
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page), but it's true that the idea is horribly daunting (as [[Joey]] said
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"If only I had a spare year"). Is there any way that you could "start
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small"? Because nothing will ever happen if the task is too daunting to
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even start.
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> This seems destined to remain a thought experiment unless something like
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> that can be done, or I get a serious case of second system disease.
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> I've considered doing things like using the external plugin interface
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> to run a separate haskell program, which would allow implementing
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> arbitrary plugins in haskell (starting with a pandoc plugin..),
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> and could perhaps grow to subsume the perl code. However, this would
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> stick us with the perl data structures, which are not a very good fit
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> for haskell. --[[Joey]]
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On further thought... perhaps it would be easier to fork or contribute to
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an existing Haskell-based wiki, such as <a
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href="http://jaspervdj.be/hakyll">Hakyll</a>?
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--[[KathrynAndersen]]
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> As far as I know there are no other wikis (haskell or otherwise)
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> that are wiki compilers. Since we know from experience that dealing
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> with static compilation turns out to be one of the trickiest parts of
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> ikiwiki, I'm doubtful about trying to bolt that into one. --[[Joey]]
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>> Haykll isn't a wiki but it does do static compilation. The missing
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>> parts are: the web interface, the wiki link processing, and page
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>> dependency stuff. -- [[tychoish]]
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>>> (nods) Which is why I suggested it. I'm not sure whether it would be easier to "bolt on" those things than static compilation, but it could be worth looking at, at least. -- [[KathrynAndersen]]
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Rather than coding plugins for the Perl ikiwiki in Haskell, I wonder how easily a Haskell ikiwiki could still support plugins written in Perl? The (old and apparently stale) [HsPerl5](http://hackage.haskell.org/package/HsPerl5) package might provide a helpful starting point there. -- [[JoshTriplett]]
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I'm very keen on this, and would be interested in helping. I've been wanting to use ikiwiki for years, but the idea of investing time in the perl ecosystem and perl-based implementation stops me.
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