One thing I don't like about Tobi's `navbar.pm` is that the navigation bar is hardcoded instead of computed from what's available. Obviously, this allows for a very customised `navbar` (i.e. not making all pages show up, like a `map` would). However, I think this could also be achieved through page properties. So imagine four pages A, B, A/C, and A/D, and these pages would include the following directives, respectively \[[!navbaritem navbar=main priority=3]] \[[!navbaritem navbar=main priority=5]] \[[!navbaritem navbar=main title="Something else"]] \[[!navbaritem navbar=main]] then one could insert `\[[!navbar id=main maxlevels=0]]` somewhere and it would get replaced with (this being in the context of viewing page C): B would sort before A because it has a higher priority, but C would sort before D because their priorities are equal. The overridden title is not used for sorting. Also, the code automatically deduces that C and D are second-level under A. I don't think this is hard to code up and it's what I've been using with [rest2web](http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/rest2web/) and it's served me well. --[[madduck]] [[!tag wishlist]]