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@@ -5,6 +5,8 @@ Note that for example dokuwiki has a [[nice plugin|http://danjer.doudouke.org/te
 > I've actually written one, it's just not publicly released.  You can check it out from the "experimental" branch of my <a href="https://github.com/rubykat/ikiplugins">ikiplugins githup repo</a>.  It's called "html2pdf" and it depends on the static version of <a href="http://wkhtmltopdf.org">wkhtmltopdf</a> rather than requiring a whole LaTeX setup. It's only been used on Ubuntu, so I can't say what problems there might be on other setups, but it works for me.  It's not properly documented; I'd appreciate some help with that.
 > -- [[KathrynAndersen]]
 
+>> kathryn: wkhtmltopdf is based on webkit (qtwebkit).  it effectively does a sort-of "i am a browser, i am going to print this page for you, oh look, you don't actually have a screen, i'll just output the file conveniently for you" thing.  as such, the dependencies are MASSIVE.  i just tried installing wkhtmltopdf on a debian server: it required pulling in x11 libraries, font configs, QT5, libxml2, 30+ other dependencies, pulling in over ONE HUNDRED sub and sub-dependencies - the works.  absolutely NO chance - whatsoever - that i am going to put a public-facing server at risk or waste resources with such a nightmare waiting to happen, particularly one that is activated by a web service.  latex on the other hand, despite being likely much larger, i can tolerate.  it has "class" and history, being developed in the 70s by donald knuth - i.e. it was *not* developed by apple (ripping off the KDE KHTMLPart team's work, years ago) and does *not* depend on a whole bunch of crap such as qt.  qt is a *GUI* toolkit, what am i gonna do installing that on a *server* for god's sake?? :)  tex.  donald knuth.  that's pedigree.
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 >> Thanks, I downloaded the git-repro and did `sudo cp html2pdf.pm /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/` then I added html2pdf to the addplugins line in my setup-file (`mywiki.setup`) as well a new line `html2pdf_pages=>"/*",`. Then I did `sudo ikiwiki --setup mywiki.setup`. However there is no button or something like that which let's me create the pdf's
 >> -- [[micheal]]