diff --git a/doc/plugins/contrib/album/discussion.mdwn b/doc/plugins/contrib/album/discussion.mdwn index a613bb2d2..5c8e74fa6 100644 --- a/doc/plugins/contrib/album/discussion.mdwn +++ b/doc/plugins/contrib/album/discussion.mdwn @@ -76,6 +76,12 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]] > though (although they don't necessarily have to be full wikilinks). > -s +>> I think that with the new dependency types system, the dependencies for +>> these can be presence dependencies, which will probably help with +>> avoiding rebuilds of a page if the next/prev page is changed. +>> (Unless you use img to make the thumbnails for those links, then it +>> would rebuild the thumbnails anyway. Have not looked at the code.) --[[Joey]] + * And doesn't each viewer page really depend on every other page in the same albumsection? If a new page is added, the next/prev links may need to be updated, for example. If so, there will be much @@ -97,6 +103,11 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]] > > (This stalled my attempt at a trail plugin, too.) -s +>> Not sure I understand why these need to look at pagespecs at scan time? +>> Also, note that it is fairly doable to detect if a pagespec uses such +>> metadata. Er, I mean, I have a cheezy hack in `add_depends` now that does +>> it to deal with a similar case. --[[Joey]] + * One thing I do like about having individual pages per image is that they can each have their own comments, etc. @@ -131,6 +142,15 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]] > page, so you can batch-edit the whole lot by editing one file (this > does mean that editing the album necessarily causes each of its viewers > to be rebuilt, but in practice that happens anyway). -s +> +>> Yes, that would make some sense.. It also allows putting one image in +>> two albums, with different caption etc. (Maybe for different audiences.) +>> +>> It would probably be possible to add a new dependency type, and thus +>> make ikiwiki smart about noticing whether the metadata has actually +>> changed, and only update those viewers where it has. But the dependency +>> type stuff is still very new, and not plugin friendly .. so only just +>> possible, --[[Joey]] ---- @@ -140,6 +160,10 @@ Suppose that each viewer is a JPEG-or-GIF-or-something, with extension ".albumimage". We have a gallery "memes" with three images, badger, mushroom and snake. +> An alternative might be to use ".album.jpg", and ".album.gif" +> etc as the htmlize extensions. May need some fixes to ikiwiki to support +> that. --[[Joey]] + Files in git repo: * index.mdwn @@ -172,6 +196,10 @@ To not confuse other plugins, album should probably have a filter() hook that turns .albumimage files into HTML? That'd probably be a reasonable way to get them rendered anyway. +> I guess that is needed to avoid preprocess, scan, etc trying to process +> the image, as well as eg, smiley trying to munge it in sanitize. +> --[[Joey]] + do=edit&page=memes/badger needs to not put the JPG in a text box: somehow divert or override the normal edit CGI by telling it that .albumimage files are not editable in the usual way? @@ -182,7 +210,14 @@ the overly strict constraint that the ordered sequence of pages in each album must be known at scan time. However, that's not *necessarily* needed: the album and each photo could collect an unordered superset of dependencies at scan time, and at rebuild time that could be refined to be the exact set, -in order. Perhaps restricting to "the images in an album A must match A/*" +in order. + +> Why do you need to collect this info at scan time? You can determine it +> at build time via `pagespec_match_list`, surely .. maybe with some +> memoization to avoid each image in an album building the same list. +> I sense that I may be missing a subtelty though. --[[Joey]] + +Perhaps restricting to "the images in an album A must match A/*" would be useful; then the unordered superset could just be "A/*". Your "albums via tags" idea would be nice too though, particularly for feature parity with e.g. Facebook: "photos of Joey" -> "tags/joey and albumimage()" @@ -195,12 +230,20 @@ and it could get quite hard to navigate. Perhaps next/previous links could be displayed only for the closest ancestor (in URL space) that is an album, or something? +> Ugh, yeah, that is a problem. Perhaps wanting to support that was just +> too ambitious. --[[Joey]] + Requiring renaming is awkward for non-technical Windows/Mac users, with both platforms' defaults being to hide extensions; however, this could be circumvented by adding some sort of hook in attachment to turn things into a .albumimage at upload time, and declaring that using git/svn/... without extensions visible is a "don't do that then" situation :-) +> Or extend `pagetype` so it can do the necessary matching without +> renaming. Maybe by allowing a subdirectory to be specified along +> with an extension. (Or allow specifying a full pagespec, +> but I hesitate to seriously suggest that.) --[[Joey]] + Ideally attachment could also be configured to upload into a specified underlay, so that photos don't have to be in your source-code control (you might want that, but I don't!).