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@@ -89,3 +89,9 @@ Is there any way to do that?  I don't mind mucking around with `\[[!meta]]` on e
 I feel like this should be obvious, but I can't figure out how to sort numerically. 
 
 I have `map pages="./* and !*/Discussion and !*/sidebar"`  and a bunch of pages with names like 1, 2, 3, 11, 12, 1/1.1, 12/12.3 etc. I want to sort them numerically. I see lots of conversation implying there's a simple way to do it, but not how.
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+> No, you can't: map can't currently use a non-default sort order. If it
+> could, then you could use [[plugins/sortnaturally]]. There's a
+> [[feature_request|todo/sort_parameter_for_map_plugin_and_directive]];
+> [[a_bug_references_it|bugs/map_sorts_by_pagename_and_not_title_when_show=title_is_used]].
+> --[[smcv]]