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http://smcv.pseudorandom.co.uk/ 2010-05-09 18:27:58 +00:00 committed by Joey Hess
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@ -46,6 +46,10 @@ secondly: barring the CGI interface for editing the album, which would be great,
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> --[[smcv]]
>> In the current version of the branch, the viewer pages are
>> generated automatically if you didn't generate them yourself,
>> so `ikiwiki-album` is no longer needed. --[[smcv]]
i'm new to ikiwiki, apologies if this is dealt with elsewhere. -brush
> This plugin is pretty ambitious, and is unfinished, so I'd recommend
@ -80,6 +84,10 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
>> an image with a strange extension to a differing target filename
>> with the normal extension, respectively). -s
>>> Now that we have `add_autofile` I can just create viewer pages
>>> whenever there's an image to view. The current version of the
>>> branch does that. -s
* With each viewer page having next/prev links, I can see how you
were having the scalability issues with ikiwiki's data structures
earlier! -J
@ -94,6 +102,8 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
>> (Unless you use img to make the thumbnails for those links, then it
>> would rebuild the thumbnails anyway. Have not looked at the code.) --[[Joey]]
>>> I do use img. -s
* And doesn't each viewer page really depend on every other page in the
same albumsection? If a new page is added, the next/prev links
may need to be updated, for example. If so, there will be much
@ -142,13 +152,20 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
> one album: if they're subpages of 2+ nested albums then they're only
> considered to be in the deepest-nested one (i.e. longest URL), and if
> they're not in any album then that's a usage error. This would
> also make prev/next links sane.
>
> also make prev/next links sane. -s
>> The current version constrains images to be in at most one album,
>> choosing one arbitrarily (dependent on scan order) if albums are
>> nested. -s
> If you want to reference images from elsewhere in the wiki and display
> them as if in an album, then you can use an ordinary inline with
> the same template that the album would use, and I'll make sure the
> templates are set up so this works.
>
> templates are set up so this works. -s
>> Still needs documenting, I've put it on the TODO list on the main
>> page. -s
> (Implementation detail: this means that an image X/Y/Z/W/V, where X and
> Y are albums, Z does not exist and W exists but is not an album,
> would have a content dependency on Y, a presence dependency on Z
@ -158,6 +175,12 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
> subpages of the album, although that would mean breaking some URLs
> on the existing website I'm doing all this work for... -s
>> The current version of the branch doesn't have this restriction;
>> perhaps it's a worthwhile simplification, or perhaps it's too
>> restrictive? I fairly often use directory hierarchies like
>> `a_festival/saturday/foo.jpg` within an album, which makes
>> it very easy to write `albumsection` filters. -s
* Putting a few of the above thoughts together, my ideal album system
seems to be one where I can just drop the images into a directory and
have them appear in the album index, as well as each generate their own wiki
@ -195,6 +218,10 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
>> upload-and-rename.
>> -s
>>> I believe the current branch meets your requirements, by having
>>> first-class wiki pages spring into existence using `add_autofile`
>>> to be viewer pages for photos. -s
> In a way, what you really want for metadata is to have it in the album
> page, so you can batch-edit the whole lot by editing one file (this
> does mean that editing the album necessarily causes each of its viewers
@ -214,6 +241,9 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
>> (That's apparently good enough for Bugzilla, but not really
>> for ikiwiki). -s
>>> This is now in the main page's TODO list; if/when I implement this,
>>> I intend to make it a specialized CGI interface. -s
>> Yes, [all metadata in one file] would make some sense.. It also allows putting one image in
>> two albums, with different caption etc. (Maybe for different audiences.)
>> --[[Joey]]
@ -229,7 +259,8 @@ code or tried it yet, but here goes. --[[Joey]]
----
Trying to use the "special extension" design:
'''I think the "special extension" design is a dead-end, but here's what
happened when I tried to work out how it would work. --[[smcv]]'''
Suppose that each viewer is a JPEG-or-GIF-or-something, with extension
".albumimage". We have a gallery "memes" with three images, badger,