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@@ -5,3 +5,7 @@ My database appears corrupted:
 
 No idea how this happened.  I've blown it away and recreated it but, for future reference, is there any less violent way to recover from this situation?  I miss having the correct created and last edited times.  --[[sabr]]
 > update: fixed ctimes and mtimes using [these instructions](http://u32.net/Mediawiki_Conversion/Git_Import/#Correct%20Creation%20and%20Last%20Edited%20time) --[[sabr]]
+
+> That's overly complex. Just run `ikiwiki -setup your.setup -getctime`. 
+> BTW, I'd be interested in examining such a corrupt storable file to try
+> to see what happened to it. --[[Joey]]