ikiwiki/doc/users/KarlMW/discussion.mdwn

When you edited [[ikiwikiusers]] all the utf-8 on the page was removed. Is this an issue with the web browser you used? I've fixed the utf-8 damage. --[[Joey]]

> Ooops!  Sorry - yes, my fault - I was using w3m, which spawned nano to edit the text, and I'm not setup for utf-8.  I'll be more careful in future.  --[[KarlMW]]

## Asciidoc

While I have your attention...  I got my asciidoc plugin going, at least
well enough to render my website without complaint. If you want to have a
look at it, the plugin is at <http://mowson.org/karl/colophon>. Is it
worthy of adding to the ikiwiki plugin collection? This is my first ever
perl programming, so I may well have made absurd mistakes - if there are
things that need changing then I will probably need help/guidance.
--[[KarlMW]]

> The main problem I see is the html escaping issue. This is not really
> unique to asciidoc, see [[todo/format_escape]]. I wonder if the
> technique provided by that patch could be used to let your plugin
> automatically handle the escaping. Unfortunatey, I have not yet gotten
> around to reviewing/applying the patch. --[[Joey]]

>> Escaping is indeed a problem with asciidoc - it seems to me that asciidoc still processes some things which have supposedly been escaped, although that may just be a matter of me misunderstanding something.  Inline escaping is done with both prefix and suffix of "+++" - no way to nest it.  Block escaping starts and ends with a line of "++++" (4 or more of "+").

>> I suspect that asciidoc can't really be made to play nice to the extent that I would want casual users/abusers to have it as a markup option on a live wiki - it's fine for a personal site where you can look at the output before putting it online, but I think it would be a hideously gaping integrity hole for anything more than that.  However, for a personal site (as I am using it), it does seem to have its uses.

>> I'll keep an eye on the format_escape plugin, and assuming it is accepted into ikiwiki, will see if I can apply it to asciidoc. --[[KarlMW]]
web commit by KarlMW: my utf-8 screw-up apology, asciidoc plugin 2007-05-22 23:37:10 +02:00			`When you edited [[ikiwikiusers]] all the utf-8 on the page was removed. Is this an issue with the web browser you used? I've fixed the utf-8 damage. --[[Joey]]`

web commit by KarlMW: asciidoc format_escape 2007-05-26 14:03:23 +02:00			`> Ooops! Sorry - yes, my fault - I was using w3m, which spawned nano to edit the text, and I'm not setup for utf-8. I'll be more careful in future. --[[KarlMW]]`
web commit by KarlMW: my utf-8 screw-up apology, asciidoc plugin 2007-05-22 23:37:10 +02:00
web commit by KarlMW: asciidoc format_escape 2007-05-26 14:03:23 +02:00			`## Asciidoc`
response 2007-05-22 23:51:24 +02:00
web commit by KarlMW: asciidoc format_escape 2007-05-26 14:03:23 +02:00			`While I have your attention... I got my asciidoc plugin going, at least`
			`well enough to render my website without complaint. If you want to have a`
			`look at it, the plugin is at <http://mowson.org/karl/colophon>. Is it`
			`worthy of adding to the ikiwiki plugin collection? This is my first ever`
			`perl programming, so I may well have made absurd mistakes - if there are`
			`things that need changing then I will probably need help/guidance.`
			`--[[KarlMW]]`

			`> The main problem I see is the html escaping issue. This is not really`
massive patchqueue reorg patches can now be anywhere and tagged patch to show up on the patch list. Moved all the patchqueue stuff to todo items; some of it was merged into existing todo items. 2007-07-25 05:36:53 +02:00			`> unique to asciidoc, see [[todo/format_escape]]. I wonder if the`
web commit by KarlMW: asciidoc format_escape 2007-05-26 14:03:23 +02:00			`> technique provided by that patch could be used to let your plugin`
			`> automatically handle the escaping. Unfortunatey, I have not yet gotten`
			`> around to reviewing/applying the patch. --[[Joey]]`

			`>> Escaping is indeed a problem with asciidoc - it seems to me that asciidoc still processes some things which have supposedly been escaped, although that may just be a matter of me misunderstanding something. Inline escaping is done with both prefix and suffix of "+++" - no way to nest it. Block escaping starts and ends with a line of "++++" (4 or more of "+").`

			`>> I suspect that asciidoc can't really be made to play nice to the extent that I would want casual users/abusers to have it as a markup option on a live wiki - it's fine for a personal site where you can look at the output before putting it online, but I think it would be a hideously gaping integrity hole for anything more than that. However, for a personal site (as I am using it), it does seem to have its uses.`

massive patchqueue reorg patches can now be anywhere and tagged patch to show up on the patch list. Moved all the patchqueue stuff to todo items; some of it was merged into existing todo items. 2007-07-25 05:36:53 +02:00			`>> I'll keep an eye on the format_escape plugin, and assuming it is accepted into ikiwiki, will see if I can apply it to asciidoc. --[[KarlMW]]`