2014-04-16 10:37:07 +02:00
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It would be great if IkiWiki could apply some sort of preprocessing to
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CSS. I'm just "thinking out loud" at the moment, but I might write
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a plugin.
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The simplest starting point would be concatenating a list of files:
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* The actiontabs and monochrome themes are not ready for use as-is;
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the Makefile constructs the real stylesheet by concatenating the
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anti-theme's CSS and the relevant theme's CSS. It would be better
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if they could just drop a file in an underlay, and IkiWiki would
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concatenate the anti-theme stylesheet and the theme's file.
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* The blueview theme is the same, but the theme's CSS also starts
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with a couple of stylesheets from YUI. IkiWiki could maybe
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concatenate the anti-theme stylesheet, the two YUI stylesheets
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and the blueview-specific part? Or maybe that's too complicated.
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* The goldtype theme is the blueview theme with some overrides
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added to the end. Again, IkiWiki could concatenate all the pieces.
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* The [[plugins/contrib/album]] plugin needs to append some
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stuff to the stylesheet, making its installation more involved
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than it ought to be. If it could append the pieces by putting them
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in an underlay, installation would just be a matter of "add
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the files".
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I'm not sure whether local.css should be concatenated too, or whether
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it should be separate.
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It would also be great if the same mechanism could be extended
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to compile CSS-like languages like [[!debpkg ruby-sass desc=SASS]]
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or [[!debpkg node-less desc=LESS]] down to CSS, but for dependency
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reasons, I don't think the themes shipped with IkiWiki should rely on that.
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If the compiled CSS ended up with a content-based filename (perhaps
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ikiwiki/compiled-HASH.css where HASH is the (possibly truncated) MD5 or SHA1
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hash of the content), that would mitigate stale CSS being served from cache
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(as long as the HTML has a short expiry, which is desirable anyway),
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and ikiwiki-hosting could maybe even do something like this to allow
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long-term caching of the files with content-based names:
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<LocationMatch /ikiwiki/compiled-[a-f0-9]+\.css>
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ExpiresByType text/css "now plus 1 year"
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</LocationMatch>
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A similar mechanism could maybe be used to minify JavaScript.
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## vague syntax proposal: controlled by directive
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\[[!css files="""
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style.css
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ikiwiki/plugin*.css
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ikiwiki/theme*.css
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local.css
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"""]]
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* *css* directive, placed in any page, concatenates the given files
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and uses them as the stylesheet for that page and its subpages,
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replacing `<TMPL_VAR BASEURL>style.css`
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* the files can be globs, which are sorted lexicographically within
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a glob, and do not have to match anything (so it's OK if you don't
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have anything that matches `plugin*.css`); "-" happens to sort
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before ".", so theme-base.css would sort before theme.css,
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which is nice to have
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* the default would be `style.css`, then `ikiwiki/plugin*.css`,
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then `ikiwiki/theme*.css` and maybe `local.css`, as in the
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example above
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* `style.css` would continue to be the anti-theme
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* themes would ship `ikiwiki/theme.css` instead of `style.css`,
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resulting in concatenation
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* goldtype would ship `ikiwiki/theme-base.css` (which is a copy of
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blueview, or a symlink to blueview if we can make symlinks safe)
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and `ikiwiki/theme.css` (which is the goldtype additions)
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* [[plugins/contrib/album]] would put its templates and
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`ikiwiki/plugin-album.css` in an underlay
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* any non-contrib plugin with complicated CSS requirements
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could also move its CSS to an underlay
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I think this could be done entirely in a plugin, except for this
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change to `page.tmpl` to allow the `<style>`s to be overridden:
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<TMPL_IF COMPILED_CSS>
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<style type="text/css" href="<TMPL_VAR BASEURL><TMPL_VAR COMPILED_CSS>" />
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<TMPL_ELSE>
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<!-- ... what it does now ... -->
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</TMPL_IF>
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The plugin could also optionally minify its output, and either pass input
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files through an external SASS/SCSS/LESS implementation according
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to their extension, or have a hook system to do so.
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People who want SASS/LESS would probably just do this in their top-level page:
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\[[!css files="mywiki.less"]]
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and do the inclusion/concatenation logic via @import.
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Security consideration: the SASS/LESS compilers will read arbitrary local
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files, so if you use those languages, ability to upload the appropriate
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extension would have to be locked-down. Perhaps it's better to implement
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this without that feature initially.
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--[[smcv]]
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2014-04-16 16:57:08 +02:00
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> Although I understand the need to improve CSS inclusion, I wonder why you are
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> proposing concatenating CSS rather than including them as several `<link
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> type="text/css" href="FILE.css" rel="stylesheet">` lines
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> in the header: unless I am missing something, I see this as far more simpler
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> than concatenating them.
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> This would imply that a template variable `CSS` is added to the page
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> template, to be filled with those lines.
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> Whatever solution is used, I agree that such a thing would be useful:
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> adding CSS (rather than replacing the existing one) should be easier.
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> -- [[Louis|spalax]]
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2014-04-16 19:38:01 +02:00
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>> One big request is more efficient than lots of small requests,
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>> if we model the CSS as all changing equally infrequently.
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>> In terms of bytes, each file needs some code in the HTML `<head>`,
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>> plus the HTTP request and response headers, plus the actual file.
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>> On the first page-view, a visitor will have to download all the CSS anyway
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>> (one request/response pair per CSS file). On subsequent page-views, there
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>> will be one request/"304 Not Modified" response per CSS file, unless the
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>> CSS files can be marked "to be cached forever" (which can be done if
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>> they have content-based filenames).
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2014-04-16 19:40:34 +02:00
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>> In terms of time, [[!wikipedia HTTP_pipelining desc="according to Wikipedia"]]
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2014-04-16 19:38:01 +02:00
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>> browsers don't generally pipeline requests, so the page won't finish
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>> loading until one round-trip time per uncached CSS file has elapsed.
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>> Having lots of small files with content-based filenames would be the
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>> next best thing - not particularly efficient on a generic web server,
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>> but they could at least be marked as "cache forever" in server
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>> configuration. I'd be OK with doing that if it makes ikiwiki more
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>> maintainable, but I don't think concatenating all the CSS at
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>> compile time is actually going to be a problem in practice.
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>> The individual small files are still going to be available
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>> for the wiki operator to edit.
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>> If some CSS files change with a significantly different frequency,
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>> *then* it might become worthwhile to separate them, but I don't
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>> think that's the case (apart from possibly local.css, which is why
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>> I'm not sure whether to include it in this).
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>> --smcv
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2014-04-26 16:00:22 +02:00
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>>> I must admit that I am not aware of how those several CSS inclusion lines
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>>> tend to make browsing less smooth. Please withdraw my comment.
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>>>
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>>> As you pointed out, CSS inclusion is more painful than it should be, and
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>>> your proposal seems to answer that. Go ahead! --[[Louis|spalax]]
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2015-05-14 14:14:37 +02:00
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> Concatenating the theme css as is done now results in files that are
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> unecessarily large with a doubling of a lot of selectors etc. It only makes
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> sense for changes that should be local.css anyway. Catted css is inefficient
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> both while downloading and while rendering. I've disabled the catting in the
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> makefile to avoid this on my personal site. In my view it would be better for
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> theme developers to work from the basewiki style, if lazy just add their
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> changes to the end of it, or if speed is of secondary importance @import it.
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> The advanced melding of stylesheets discussed sounds quite complicated with
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> likely useability problems when the site don't quite look as expected. Hunting
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> down the problematic css will be difficult.
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> Are there parsers that remove double defined selectors according to cascading
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> rules as is done in browser? This would at least produce cleaner css but the
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> useability problems would remain.
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> When using complete themes and hunting that last bit of speed a config option
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> to turn off local.css would probably be a good idea? Plugin css is difficult.
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> A choice between a plugin complete theme or a local.css (or @import from it)
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> would be a simple solution that lets you choose how you prioritize speed
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> vs convenience. --[[kjs]]
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